The limit of xye^-(x+y)^2 when x^2+y^2 approach infinity

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the expression \( xye^{-(x+y)^2} \) as \( x^2 + y^2 \) approaches infinity. Participants explore the behavior of this limit using polar coordinates and consider various approaches to determine its value, including potential dependencies on the angle in polar coordinates.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the book's answer of "no limit" and attempts to use polar coordinates to analyze the limit, suggesting that the denominator's dependence on the angle may affect the outcome.
  • Another participant argues that if the limit existed, it would not depend on the path taken as \( r \) approaches infinity, indicating that different paths yield different results, thus implying the limit is not well defined.
  • A third participant notes that depending on the value of \( x+y \), the limit can yield different results, such as \( -\infty \) when \( x+y = 0 \) and \( 0 \) when \( x+y \to \infty.
  • A later reply presents a mathematical manipulation of the limit in polar coordinates, highlighting that the limit is undefined under certain conditions, specifically when \( e^{r^2(1+\sin(2\theta))} \) approaches \( e^{\infty \cdot 0} \) or when \( 1+\sin(2\theta) = 0 \), which occurs for specific angles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the limit's value, with multiple competing views presented regarding its behavior depending on the approach taken. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the limit's behavior may depend on the angle in polar coordinates, and there are specific conditions under which the limit is undefined. The discussion highlights the complexity of the limit without resolving the mathematical intricacies involved.

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I try to figure it out but I can't get the answer that I need and when I look upon the solution from the book I don't understand it at all. The answer is " no limit" and there is no explanation why. The question is

Determine the limit of

lim (x2+y2)- -> infinity (xye-(x+y)2

in this case I use polar coordinate which I get

lim r2 - -> infinity ( r2cos(x)sin(X) / er^2(1+sin(2x) )

My idea is since there is (er^2(1+sin(2x)) in denominator which is depening on angle (2x) but I am not sure if I understand correct. Can anyone here help me to figure it out? Thanks in advance.

Regard
 
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If the limit existed, then the result would not depend on how r approaches infinity. As you can see, you will obtain different results depending on the polar coordinate (if you fix it) and therefore the limit is not well defined.
 
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If x+y = 0, the limit is -∞. If x+y -> ∞, the limit = 0. Manipulation of x+y can lead to any limit.
 
##\lim\limits_{x^2+y^2\to\infty} x y e^{-(x+y)^2}##

##\lim\limits_{r^2\to\infty} r^2 \cos(\theta) \sin(\theta) e^{-r^2 (1+\sin(2\theta))}##

##\lim\limits_{r^2\to\infty} \frac {r^2 \cos(\theta) \sin(\theta)} {e^{r^2 (1+\sin(2\theta))}}##

The limit is undefined when the ##e^{r^2 (1+\sin (2\theta))}=e^{\infty \cdot 0}## or when ##1+\sin(2\theta)=0## and that happens for ##\theta = \frac{3\pi}{4}, \frac{7\pi}{4}##

##\arctan (\frac{y}{x})=\frac{3\pi}{4}## And that means ##\frac{y}{x}=-1## or along the line ##y=-x## which restricts the domain.
 

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