News The Minister Who Killed Abortionists

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The discussion centers on the impending execution of a former Presbyterian minister, who would be the first person executed in the U.S. for anti-abortion violence. Opponents of the death penalty, including some who fear that his execution could incite further violence against abortion clinics, have urged Florida Governor Jeb Bush to intervene, but he has refused to halt the execution. The minister expressed a belief in a heavenly reward for his actions, raising concerns about the justification of violence in the name of faith. Participants in the discussion highlight the contradictions in his stance as a former minister who preached against killing while justifying his own violent actions. The conversation touches on broader themes of fanaticism, the implications of the death penalty, and the societal perceptions of different religious groups in relation to violent acts committed by individuals. The dialogue reflects a tension between views on justice, morality, and the potential consequences of state-sanctioned executions.

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  • Jeb Bush does something right for once. Kill the SoB.

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  • He should have a life sentence to deny him "martyrdom".

    Votes: 5 50.0%

  • He should be set free. (!)

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-09-03-hill_x.htm

The 49-year-old former Presbyterian minister stood to become the first person executed in the United States for anti-abortion violence.

Death penalty opponents and others called on Gov. Jeb Bush to halt the execution, some of them warning Hill's death would make him a martyr and unleash more violence against abortion clinics. The governor said he would not be "bullied" into stopping the execution, the third in Florida this year.
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"I expect a great reward in heaven," he said in the interview, during which he was cheerful, often smiling. "I am looking forward to glory."

He added: "More people should act as I have acted."

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"I expect a great reward in heaven,...I am looking forward to glory."

"The true fanatic is a theocrat, someone who sees himself as acting on behalf of some super-personal force: the Race, the Party, History, the Proletariat, the Poor, and so on. These absolve him from evil, hence he may safely do anything in their service."
-- Lloyd Billingsley


I guess the 10 commandments are just so many guidelines, but giving the State power to execute makes me queezy. I voted to let him rot for the remainder of his life, without parole.
 
As a 'former' minister of God, I don't understand how he could justify killing. It goes against everything he ever stood for.
 
What, he should be put in prison so he can shank all the 'sinners' in there too?
 
This guy is one of those people who gives anti abortionists a bad name. Isn't it contradictory how he acts upon the one thing he preached to prevent?
 
Originally posted by FZ+
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Good riddence.
As a 'former' minister of God, I don't understand how he could justify killing.
I think you know why but it probably scares the heck out of you (as it should). He (like many many others) believes that when doing God's work, sometimes you are allowed - compelled even - to break some rules for the "greater good." He thinks he's an agent of God and therefore not bound by God's laws, much less society's laws. People like that are as dangerous as dangerous gets. They are Hitlers, Stalins, and Maos.
 
Hmmmm...I wish I weren't a mentor, so I could reply the way some others on this board do, with something like:

[sarcasm] See, this is proof that Christianity is a sick cult, and its followers should be put down like the barely human beasts that they are![/sarcasm]
 
It is very ironic that somebody who hates killing innocent babies has no problem killing other people.

See, this is proof that Christianity is a sick cult, and its followers should be put down like the barely human beasts that they are!

Zero, I noted the sarcasm tags but just a word to anybody who is sincere with that statement: This is just one nut. Not all Christians are victims of lunancy.
 
Originally posted by Sting
It is very ironic that somebody who hates killing innocent babies has no problem killing other people.



Zero, I noted the sarcasm tags but just a word to anybody who is sincere with that statement: This is just one nut. Not all Christians are victims of lunancy.
Just noting that no one ever says that all of Christianity or Judaism is responsible for the actions of its more extreme fringe groups.
 
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Just noting that no one ever says that all of Christianity or Judaism is responsible for the actions of its more extreme fringe groups.

That's very true with special emphasis on Christianity and Judaism.

I really hate to say, but it is the truth. A Christian and a Muslim are both tried for murder. For the Christian, the individual gets the blame. For the Muslim, Islam gets the blame.

Anyway, to get back on topic. In reality, if we executed him, wouldn't we be really a hypocrisy on our part?

Think about it this way. A killed B because B killed C. D kills A for killing B. Wouldn't that put A and D in the same situation?
 
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Originally posted by Zero
Just noting that no one ever says that all of Christianity or Judaism is responsible for the actions of its more extreme fringe groups.
The reason is simply that they are on the extreme fringe. If the "extreme fringe" were actually the majority or controlling entity, then it would be different.
 

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