The Mysteries of (a) and (c): Homework Solutions

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a box of books being pushed across the floor. The problem includes calculating the normal force, acceleration, and time taken to move a certain distance, with specific values provided for mass, force, and friction coefficient.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the normal force and acceleration but expresses confusion about the negative acceleration result. Participants discuss the role of friction and the components of the applied force, suggesting the use of free body diagrams and net force equations.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, with some providing guidance on the equations and concepts involved. There is acknowledgment of the challenges related to friction and the implications of negative values in the context of direction.

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Some participants note the importance of considering the direction of forces and the setup of the problem, while others highlight the initial conditions, such as starting from rest. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the physics concepts at play without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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1. Homework Statement

A box of books with a mass of 10.0 kg is shoved across the floor by a force of 415 N exerted downward at an angle of 35° above the horizontal.


(a) If µk between the box and the floor is 0.23, find the normal force on the box.
For (a), I got 247.834 N

(b) Find the acceleration of the box

(c) How long does it take to move the box 4 m, starting from rest?

I'm stuck on (b) and (c)

Fp is the pushing force. Fpx is the x direction and Fpy is the y direction.
ax is the acceleration in the x direction

2. Homework Equations :
sigmaFx=max
sigmaFy=0


solving for ax, I get:
ax=(-Ff-Fpx)/m3. The Attempt at a Solution :

ax=(-247.834-415cos35)/10
ax=-38.876 m/s^2

I'm not really sure if I'm supposed to get a negative number :confused:?

For (c), I am absolutely stuck.
 
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b)
First youre forgetting an important equation, force of friction
Ff=[tex]\mu[/tex]k*Fn = 0.23 * 247.834 N = 57.002 N
you used the normal force instead of the force of friction

next find the force of the push Fp

because it is downward at a 35o angle only a portion of the force is applied in the x direction.
Fpx = 415cos(35o) = 339.95

Set up a free body diagram for the problem

Fpx<----(box)-->Ff
set the xy plane on the box, with the box centered at the origin, and youll see that Fp is in the negative direction and Ff is in the positive, when plugging this in the net force equation make sure to include signs

You want to find the acceleration, so you have to find the net force on the box and set that equal to max

Fnet=[tex]\Sigma[/tex]F
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]F=-Fp+Ff

next Fnet= -339.95 N +57.002 N = -282.95 N is youre net force

use this to find ax

Fnet/m = ax
-282.95 N/ 10g = -28.295 m/s2

the negative is simply for direction, if they ask for magnitude give them 28.295 however if they want direction the negative is necessary
 


c)
once you have acceleration you have to use one of the motion equations
what you need is time and you have v0 (initially velocity), acceleration, and distance

use the equation

d=v0t+(1/2)at2

solve for t
luckily we know that the box starts at rest so v0 = 0 and that portion of the equation disappears

so now we have
d=(1/2)at2

solve for t and youll find

square root(2d/a)=t <-- sorry something is wrong with the forums can't do the square root deal

finally plug and chug

square root(2*4 m/ 28.295 m/s^2) = 0.5317 s <-- again something wrong with the forums XD

what about the negative acceleration? technically the box is moving in the direction of the force therefore the displacement is -4 m and the acceleration is also negative. negative divided by negative is positive and it works.

hope this helps!
first time answering a question on here :biggrin:
 


Hey thanks man. That helped a lot. I usually get physics but friction is something that I have a hard time with.
 


anytime
 

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