The philosophy of size and placement

[John Jones]

Some things are bigger than big. They have no-where to sit.
The Universe has no-where to sit.

Some things are smaller than small. They have nowhere to sit.
Quantum Strings have no-where to sit.

Science tells us this.

We, thankfully, are in-between. We have somewhere to sit.

Science has proven this.

Some knowledge is too ... big. It has nowhere to sit -
I know that the Big Bang only started with an explosion because the explosion was caused by the Big Bang. That has nowhere to sit as well.

 

[Maui]

Believe it or not, experiments prove that existence isn't so sharply defined as "something exists" and "something doesn't exist".

Also, existence doesn't seem to require a holder in which it would sit and it seems increasingly clear that it can sit and not sit at the same time. Until the symmetry breaks into a crisp, comprehensible and well defined reality. It's magic in the making.

If you really think about it, there is more common sense in it, than saying something as small as a proton expanded to the size of the universe and it all sits into non-existence(or some other similar obscure idea).

 

[John Jones]

Believe it or not, experiments prove that existence isn't so sharply defined as "something exists" and "something doesn't exist".

Also, existence doesn't seem to require a holder in which it would sit and it seems increasingly clear that it can sit and not sit at the same time. Until the symmetry breaks into a crisp, comprehensible and well defined reality. It's magic in the making.

If you really think about it, there is more common sense in it, than saying something as small as a proton expanded to the size of the universe and it all sits into non-existence(or some other similar obscure idea).

"No-where to sit" means that the idea doesn't make sense.
The idea of the universe being a totality of facts, of whatever sort, doesn't make sense. The idea of a physically limited universe doesn't make sense. The idea of a hidden quantum world obfuscates on what sense is. These ideas have no-where to sit.

 

[alt]

"No-where to sit" means that the idea doesn't make sense.
The idea of the universe being a totality of facts, of whatever sort, doesn't make sense. The idea of a physically limited universe doesn't make sense. The idea of a hidden quantum world obfuscates on what sense is. These ideas have no-where to sit.

OK -I follow all that. So, where do we stand ?

 

[DaveC426913]

The universe is not obliged to make sense to you.

That should factor into your considerations.

 

[DaveC426913]

Also, "this does not make sense" is not really a valid philosophical stance.

This should be moved to GD.

 

[Math Is Hard]

I was thinking about sneaking the thread over to GD, but I'd have to wait until Evo goes to sleep.

Anyway, I've been really lenient/lazy in here lately (I've been extremely busy IRL), but I think this thread is just way too far outside the guidelines.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=47294

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=459350