The Physics of Helium Purging NO Solutions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the physics of using helium as a purging gas, specifically in the context of measuring trace concentrations of nitric oxide (NO). Participants explore the implications of helium purging in various systems and its effectiveness in removing other gases.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about the physics of helium's effectiveness in purging solutions, particularly its interaction with nitric oxide.
  • Another participant notes that helium has been used for purging aqueous solutions in high-resolution spectroscopy, suggesting a potential application context.
  • A participant describes their specific use of helium to purge oxygen from a system designed to measure trace concentrations of nitric oxide, highlighting a significant loss of sample during mass spectrometry.
  • One participant requests more detailed information about the experimental setup to better understand potential issues, indicating that the current description lacks sufficient detail for meaningful input.
  • A participant indicates their intention to develop their own model for the purging process, suggesting a shift away from seeking external input.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of helium as a purging gas, and multiple competing views regarding its application and the underlying physics remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for a more detailed description of the experimental setup and the specific conditions under which helium is being used, indicating that assumptions and definitions may vary among contributions.

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I am curious about the physics behind why helium is or is not a good gas to use purging other solutions. I am explicitly interested in its effects with NO.
 
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I know that Helium has been used for purging aqueous solutions prior to high resolution spectroscopy.

But perhaps you have a different context in mind. So please tell us what the context is. And if you include a reference to support the assertion, that would be ideal.
 
well, what I am doing is using helium to purge oxygen out of a system I have developed to measure trace concentrations of Nitric Oxide so I can try to solve some of the mysteries associated with the compound. I have been searching to see if there is a Math/Physics model for the mixture of gaseous solutions. The reason is because i have cleared all the leaks of my machine as well as put it in a nitrogen atmosphere and for some reason when My sample makes it to the mass spec i seem to be losing about 87% of the original sample.
 
1) You're purging an aqueous solution prior to assay of NO or NOx; 2) you're (or not?) chromatographing the solution; 3) you're doing a mass spec of the solution, or of the gase stream during the purging process?

You're going to have to come up with a more detailed description of what you're doing --- asking people to guess what you're doing and tell you what problems might arise just ain't going to get anywhere.
 
I gave a brief overview. All I want to know is The physics behind using Helium Gas to purge another gas in a system. Any System. But I have decided just to create my own model and move on. Thanks anyways.
 

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