The Pressure Distribution in a Narrowing Tube with Increasing Fluid Velocity

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The discussion revolves around fluid dynamics, specifically the behavior of fluid flow in a horizontal tube that narrows, and how this affects pressure and velocity. The original poster questions whether the flow rate increases with a decrease in tube diameter and seeks clarification on the relationship between fluid velocity and pressure changes in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between flow rate, velocity, and pressure, questioning how an increase in fluid speed correlates with pressure changes. They discuss Newton's laws and the implications of force acting on fluid parcels within the tube.

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The discussion is active, with participants engaging in a back-and-forth dialogue about the principles of fluid dynamics. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's laws and the need for free body diagrams to visualize forces acting on the fluid. There is an ongoing exploration of how pressure relates to changes in velocity and acceleration.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, focusing on theoretical understanding rather than practical application. There is an emphasis on reasoning through the physics concepts rather than arriving at a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement


Question:
For a fluid flowing within a horizontal tube, if the diameter of the tube narrows, will the fluid's flow rate increase, resulting in increased pressure in the narrowing and explain your reasoning.

Homework Equations


Volume flow rate = volume/time
Volume = Area x Distance
Velocity = Distance/ time

The Attempt at a Solution


Sub in Volume = A x D
So, Flow rate = (Area x distance)/time
simplifies down to Flow rate= Area X Velocity

As the volume flow rate is constant, (A1 xV1 = A2 x V2)
if Area gets smaller (the tube narrowing) then Velocity must increase (water goes faster)

What I do not understand, is how does this affect the pressure? Is it to do with Kinetic energy?
Could someone please explain why it results in higher pressure?
Thanks
 
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Johny Prime said:
What I do not understand, is how does this affect the pressure?
Think about a parcel of the fluid entering the narrow section. If it is to gain speed, how is that to happen, according to Newton?
 
haruspex said:
If it is to gain speed, how is that to happen, according to Newton?
I'm not quite sure what you mean, is it because the fluid is going faster and exerting more force on the inside walls of the tube?
 
Johny Prime said:
I'm not quite sure what you mean, is it because the fluid is going faster and exerting more force on the inside walls of the tube?
What, according to Newton, makes a mass move faster, or change velocity at all?
 
haruspex said:
What, according to Newton, makes a mass move faster, or change velocity at all?
A force, right? So that means that there's more force acting on the same area and that would increase the pressure since Pressure = Force/ Area?
Would that be correct? I think I'm seeing the connection now.
 
Johny Prime said:
A force, right? So that means that there's more force acting on the same area and that would increase the pressure since Pressure = Force/ Area?
Would that be correct? I think I'm seeing the connection now.
Getting there, but draw yourself a free body diagram for the parcel of water. It is in the middle of the flow, say, in the narrowing part of the tube, so it is accelerating. Which way is the net force acting?
 
The net force would be facing the way that the fluid is flowing, right?
 
haruspex said:
Getting there, but draw yourself a free body diagram for the parcel of water. It is in the middle of the flow, say, in the narrowing part of the tube, so it is accelerating. Which way is the net force acting?
The net force would be facing the way that the fluid is flowing, right? The fluid is moving in that direction right?
 
Johny Prime said:
The net force would be facing the way that the fluid is flowing, right? The fluid is moving in that direction right?
For it to be getting faster, yes. What does this tell you about pressures?
 
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haruspex said:
For it to be getting faster, yes. What does this tell you about pressures?
The pressure would have to increase, right? If it's going faster, then there's Acceleration so according to the formula: Force = Mass X Acceleration, Acceleration is increasing and that would mean that Force is increasing, which would result in Pressure going up via the formula Pressure = Force/ Area. Is that sound enough explanation to answer the question fully?
 
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Johny Prime said:
The pressure would have to increase, right? If it's going faster, then there's Acceleration so according to the formula: Force = Mass X Acceleration, Acceleration is increasing and that would mean that Force is increasing, which would result in Pressure going up via the formula Pressure = Force/ Area. Is that sound enough explanation to answer the question fully?
No. You drew a free body diagram of the parcel of water, yes? You can draw it as a cube. Say the tube it is in is narrower to the right and it is accelerating to the right. Where on the cube is the greatest pressure?
 

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