The sign of coupling Hamiltonian in CQED

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The discussion centers on the sign of the coupling Hamiltonian in cavity quantum electrodynamics (CQED), specifically regarding the coupling between a bosonic cavity mode and a two-level fermionic gain medium chromophore. Participants explore different forms of the coupling Hamiltonian under the rotating wave approximation and the implications of a negative sign in one of the proposed forms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a coupling Hamiltonian of the form $$H_{coupling}=\hbar g(\sigma_{10}+\sigma_{01})(b+b^{\dagger})$$ and notes an alternate form $$H_{coupling}=\hbar g(\sigma_{10}b-\sigma_{01}b^{\dagger})$$ that includes a negative sign.
  • Another participant suggests that the difference in sign depends on the convention used for quantizing the electromagnetic field, leading to variations in the resulting terms.
  • A later reply questions whether the conventions vary based on the redefinition of the field operators, specifically relating to the quantized vector potential versus the quantized generalized momentum.
  • One participant asserts that there is no redefinition of the field operators and emphasizes that it relates to whether the electric or vector potential is treated as the real or imaginary part of a complex function.
  • Another participant acknowledges this explanation and relates it to the choice between cosine or sine waveforms in describing the oscillating field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conventions used in quantizing the electromagnetic field and the implications for the coupling Hamiltonian. No consensus is reached regarding the significance of the negative sign in the Hamiltonian forms.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of different conventions for quantizing the electromagnetic field and how these conventions may affect the resulting expressions for the coupling Hamiltonian. The discussion highlights the dependence on the choice of waveform representation (cosine vs. sine) without resolving the underlying assumptions.

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Hi all,

I've always regarded the coupling Hamiltonian for a bosonic cavity mode coupled to a two-level fermionic gain medium chromophore to be of the form,

$$H_{coupling}=\hbar g(\sigma_{10}+\sigma_{01})(b+b^{\dagger})$$,

where ##b## and ##b^{\dagger}## and annihilation and creation operators for the bosonic cavity mode and ##\sigma_{ij}## are the raising and lowering operators for a two level atom. ##g## is the coupling constant.

Using the rotating wave approximation, this sometimes is simplified to,

$$H_{coupling}=\hbar g(\sigma_{10}b+\sigma_{01}b^{\dagger})$$.

I've recently come across some texts that seems to use an alternate form(under the rotating wave approximation) to describe (what I perceive is) the exact same system,

$$H_{coupling}=\hbar g(\sigma_{10}b-\sigma_{01}b^{\dagger})$$,

the main difference being the negative sign. Would you be able to explain why this difference occurs and what the significance of the negative sign is?

Thanks!
 
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It depends on your convention for quantizing the EM field. You either get terms like \boldsymbol{E} \sim \boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}b_k+\boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}^*b_k^\dagger or \boldsymbol{E} \sim i(\boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}b_k -\boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}^*b_k^\dagger).

Then when you add in the dipole-field interaction you end up with extra minus signs.
 
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vancouver_water said:
It depends on your convention for quantizing the EM field. You either get terms like \boldsymbol{E} \sim \boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}b_k+\boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}^*b_k^\dagger or \boldsymbol{E} \sim i(\boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}b_k -\boldsymbol{\epsilon_k}^*b_k^\dagger).

Then when you add in the dipole-field interaction you end up with extra minus signs.
Thank you very much for the reply! Do the conventions vary based on the redefinition of the field operators ##b_k^\dagger## and ##b_k##? If what I think is correct, in one convention, the ##b_k^\dagger,b_k## is proportional to the quantized vector potential, while in the other, it's the quantized generalized momentum. Am I right here?

Thanks.
 
There is no redefinition of the field operators. Before the quantization it is the same as taking the E or A field as the real or imaginary part of a complex function.
 
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vancouver_water said:
There is no redefinition of the field operators. Before the quantization it is the same as taking the E or A field as the real or imaginary part of a complex function.
Thanks for that. I wrote down the derivation and I see what you mean. It basically depends on whether the cosine or sine waveform is used to describe the oscillating field.
 

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