The vector sum of the electric forces exerted on a particle

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The discussion centers on calculating the vector sum of electric forces acting on particle 3, which carries a charge of +5.0 μC, positioned at (0, 90 mm) in a Cartesian coordinate system. Participants utilized Coulomb's Law, specifically the formula F = k(Q1Q2/r^2), to derive the forces exerted by particles 1 and 2, which carry charges of +3.0 nC and -3.0 nC, respectively. A critical error was identified in the charge unit of particle 3, which was mistakenly considered as nanocoulombs instead of microcoulombs, leading to incorrect force calculations. The correct approach emphasizes maintaining algebraic expressions until the final calculation to minimize errors.

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Homework Statement
Two particles are located on the x axis of a Cartesian coordinate system. Particle 1 carries a charge of +3.0 nC and is at x = -30 mm and particle 2 carries a charge of -3.0 nC and is at x = 30 mm . Particle 3, which carries a charge of +5.0 μC , is located on the positive y axis 90 mm from the origin. What is the magnitude of the vector sum of the electric forces exerted on particle 3?
Relevant Equations
F = k(Q1Q2/r^2)
c = sqrt(a^2+b^2)
r_{13}=r_{23}=\sqrt{(30*10^{-3})^2+(90*10^{-3})^2}=\sqrt{9*10^{-3}}\\<br /> F^E_{13}=F^E_{23}=9E9\cdot\frac{5*10^{-9}\cdot3*10^{-9}}{9*10^{-3}}=1.5*10^{-5}\\<br /> \theta=tan^{-1}(\frac{90*10^{-3}}{30*10^{-3}})=71.565\,degrees\\<br /> \vec{F}^E_{13}=&lt;F^E_{13}cos\theta, F^E_{13}sin\theta&gt; = &lt;4.743*10^{-6}, 1.423*10^{-5}&gt;\\<br /> \vec{F}^E_{23}=&lt;F^E_{23}cos(-\theta), F^E_{23}sin(-\theta)&gt; = &lt;4.743*10^{-6}, -1.423*10^{-5}&gt;\\<br />
Because particle 3 is positively charged, particle 1 is positively charged, and particle 2 is negatively charged, and the magnitude of the force by 1 on 3 is the same as magnitude of the force by 2 on 3, the vertical components of the force should cancel out, while the horizontal components should be additive, so my final answer was
F=2*(4.743*10^{-6})=9.487*10^{-6}
But this is incorrect. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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msw1 said:
Homework Statement:: Two particles are located on the x-axis of a Cartesian coordinate system. Particle 1 carries a charge of +3.0 nC and is at x = -30 mm and particle 2 carries a charge of -3.0 nC and is at x = 30 mm . Particle 3, which carries a charge of +5.0 μC , is located on the positive y-axis 90 mm from the origin. What is the magnitude of the vector sum of the electric forces exerted on particle 3?
Relevant Equations:: F = k(Q1Q2/r^2)
c = sqrt(a^2+b^2)

r_{13}=r_{23}=\sqrt{(30*10^{-3})^2+(90*10^{-3})^2}=\sqrt{9*10^{-3}}\\<br /> F^E_{13}=F^E_{23}=9E9\cdot\frac{5*10^{-9}\cdot3*10^{-9}}{9*10^{-3}}=1.5*10^{-5}\\<br /> \theta=tan^{-1}(\frac{90*10^{-3}}{30*10^{-3}})=71.565\,degrees\\<br /> \vec{F}^E_{13}=&lt;F^E_{13}cos\theta, F^E_{13}sin\theta&gt; = &lt;4.743*10^{-6}, 1.423*10^{-5}&gt;\\<br /> \vec{F}^E_{23}=&lt;F^E_{23}cos(-\theta), F^E_{23}sin(-\theta)&gt; = &lt;4.743*10^{-6}, -1.423*10^{-5}&gt;\\<br />
Because particle 3 is positively charged, particle 1 is positively charged, and particle 2 is negatively charged, and the magnitude of the force by 1 on 3 is the same as magnitude of the force by 2 on 3, the vertical components of the force should cancel out, while the horizontal components should be additive, so my final answer was
F=2*(4.743*10^{-6})=9.487*10^{-6}
But this is incorrect. Any help would be appreciated.
I get the same as you do. Do you know what the answer is claimed to be?

But it is much better to keep everything algebraic and avoid plugging in numbers until the final step. Many advantages, one of which is a better strike rate on getting help on this forum!

You can avoid finding the angle. You had to find the distance anyway, so the cos and sin values can be had by simple division.
 
haruspex said:
I get the same as you do. Do you know what the answer is claimed to be?

But it is much better to keep everything algebraic and avoid plugging in numbers until the final step. Many advantages, one of which is a better strike rate on getting help on this forum!

You can avoid finding the angle. You had to find the distance anyway, so the cos and sin values can be had by simple division.
Thanks for the feedback! I found my mistake. It was very subtle. The charge of particle 3 is given in microcoulombs, not nanocoulombs. Very annoying!
 
msw1 said:
Thanks for the feedback! I found my mistake. It was very subtle. The charge of particle 3 is given in microcoulombs, not nanocoulombs. Very annoying!
Well spotted.
 

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