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The discussion revolves around finding the integer X that satisfies the inequality involving the product of fractions from 1/2 to 99/100. Participants explore various approaches to estimate this product and its relation to powers of 10, while considering the use of calculators in a contest setting.

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  • Veronica seeks help with the inequality involving the product of fractions, expressing uncertainty about the approach.
  • Jameson questions whether the problem is from a current contest, implying restrictions on assistance for ongoing contests.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the middle term as a product and presents a formulation involving odd and even terms.
  • Sudharaka provides a detailed calculation of the product, approximating it to 0.079589 and suggesting a suitable value for x based on this approximation.
  • A later post proposes a method to show that the product is greater than 1/100 and less than 1/10, using estimates of grouped fractions.
  • Another participant introduces Stirling's approximation to argue that the product is less than 1/10, providing a mathematical derivation to support this claim.

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Participants present multiple approaches and calculations, indicating that there is no consensus on the best method or the exact value of X. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the estimates and methods used.

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Some participants rely on approximations and factorial calculations, which may depend on the accuracy of their calculators. The discussion includes various mathematical techniques, but the assumptions and limitations of these methods are not fully resolved.

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What is the integer X which satisfies

10^x < 1/2 X 3/4 X 5/6 X 7/8 X ... X 99/100 < 10^(x+1) ?

Could I get some help?
This contest allows the use of calculators but I still can't think of the right approach.
 
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veronica1999 said:
What is the integer X which satisfies

10^x < 1/2 X 3/4 X 5/6 X 7/8 X ... X 99/100 < 10^(x+1) ?

Could I get some help?
This contest allows the use of calculators but I still can't think of the right approach.

Hi Veronica,

This "contest" question is from a previous contest, correct? If it's for an ongoing one we can't help you. Just want to be sure!

Jameson
 
Jameson said:
Hi Veronica,

This "contest" question is from a previous contest, correct? If it's for an ongoing one we can't help you. Just want to be sure!

Jameson
I think it's from 10 years ago.:)
 
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I am not sure if this will help but what I can think of is to write the middle term as a product.

The top terms are odd so $2n - 1$ and the bottom terms are even so $2n$

Then you have $10^x<\prod\limits_{n=1}^{50}\left(1-\frac{1}{2n}\right)<10^{x+1}$

You can see if that made it any easier.
 
veronica1999 said:
What is the integer X which satisfies

10^x < 1/2 X 3/4 X 5/6 X 7/8 X ... X 99/100 < 10^(x+1) ?

Could I get some help?
This contest allows the use of calculators but I still can't think of the right approach.

Hi veronica1999, :)

\begin{eqnarray}

\frac{1}{2}\times\frac{3}{4}\times\ldots\times \frac{99}{100}&=&\frac{1.2.3.4\cdots99.100}{(2.4.6\cdots.100)^2}\\

&=&\frac{100!}{[2^{50}(1.2.3.\cdots.50)]^2}\\

&=&\frac{100!}{2^{100}(50!)^2}\\

\end{eqnarray}

Assuming that you have a very powerful calculator, :) (The maximum factorial expression that can be computed in my one is about \(70!\))

\[\frac{1}{2}\times\frac{3}{4}\times\ldots\times \frac{99}{100}=\frac{100!}{2^{100}(50!)^2}\approx 0.079589\]

Now you should be able to choose a suitable value for \(x\). :)

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
veronica1999 said:
What is the integer $x$ which satisfies $$10^x < \frac12 \times \frac34 \times \frac56 \times 7frac78 \times \cdots \times \frac{99}{100} < 10^{x+1}\ ?$$
Could I get some help?
This contest allows the use of calculators but I still can't think of the right approach.
You want to show that $$\frac1{100} < \frac12 \times \frac34 \times \frac56 \times \frac78 \times \cdots \times \frac{99}{100} < \frac1{10}.$$

One of those inequalities is quite easy. If you shift the numerator of each fraction one place to the left then you get $$\frac12 \times \frac34 \times \frac56 \times \frac78 \times \cdots \times \frac{99}{100} = \frac1{100}\Bigl(\frac32 \times \frac54 \times \frac76 \times \frac98 \times \cdots \times \frac{99}{98}\Bigr) >\frac1{100}$$ (because each fraction in the bracket is greater than 1).

The other inequality seem much less accessible. You can start by calculating the product of the first few fractions, to get $$\frac12 \times \frac34 \times \frac56 \times \frac78 \times \frac9{10} \approx 0.2460937.$$ But that process soon begins to get tedious. You can shorten it to get something mangeable on even a basic calculator, as follows. Group the next five terms together to form an estimate of their product in this way: $$\frac{11}{12} \times \frac{13}{14} \times \frac{15}{16} \times \frac{17}{18} \times \frac{19}{20} < \Bigl(\frac{19}{20}\Bigr)^5 \approx 0.7737809.$$

Similar calculations for the remaining batches of five fractions (those with denominators 22 to 30, 32 to 40, and so on) show that their products are less than 0.8440802, 0.8810956 and so on – you do the remaining ones. Finally, multiplying all these estimates together, you can conclude that the product of all fifty fractions is less than 0.1.

Messy, but it works. I don't see any simpler way of doing the computation.
 
One way to prove $\frac{100!}{2^{100}(50!)^2}<\frac{1}{10}$ is using Stirling's approximation, which says $$\sqrt{2\pi}\ n^{n+1/2}e^{-n} \le n! \le e\ n^{n+1/2}e^{-n}.$$ Therefore,

$$
\begin{aligned}
\frac{100!}{2^{100}(50!)^2}\le &
\frac{e\cdot100^{100+1/2}e^{-100}}{2^{100}\left(\sqrt{2\pi}50^{50+1/2}e^{-50}\right)^2} =\\
&\frac{e\cdot100^{100}10e^{-100}}{2^{100}2\pi\cdot50^{100}50e^{-100}}= \\
&\frac{10e}{100\pi}=\frac{e}{\pi}\frac{1}{10}< \frac{1}{10}
\end{aligned}
$$
 

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