Simplifying the Distance Formula for Points on the Surface xy^2z^3 = 2

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The discussion focuses on determining the points on the surface defined by the equation xy2z3 = 2 that are closest to the origin using optimization techniques. Participants suggest using the square of the distance formula and Lagrange multipliers to find the minimum distance. The functions f(x,y,z) = x2 + y2 + z2 and g(x,y,z) = xy2z3 = 2 are established, leading to a system of equations involving the gradients of these functions. The discussion emphasizes the importance of eliminating the Lagrange multiplier, λ, to simplify the problem.

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Homework Statement



Determine the points on the surface xy^2z^3 = 2 that are closest to the origin

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is there an easier way to do this than to plug it into the distance formula and taking the derivative set to 0.
 
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Use the square of the distance formula.

Also, and this may be what you are looking for, instead of using xy2z3= 2 to replace one variable with the other two, use "Lagrange multipliers". If we write f(x,y,z)= x2+ y2+ z2, the square of the distance to the origin, and g(x,y,z)= xy2z3= 2, then max or min values of f, for points that satisfy g(x,y,z)= 2 must have \nabla f parallel to \nabla g- one must be a multiple of the other. Setting \nabla f= \lambda g and comparing the components, together with g(x,y,z)= 2, gives 4 equations to solve for x, y, z, and \lambda.

Tip: since you are not interested in the value of \lambda, and \lambda is simply multiplied by the functions of x, y, and z, often a best first thing to do is to divide one equation by another to eliminate \lambda.
 
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I case you need to look that up, Halls meant Lagrange multipliers, not Laplace.
 
Thanks, matt, I have editted that.
 
ok i got a little stuck, here's my work, BTW k = lagrange multiplier

f(x,y,z) = x2 + y2 + z2
g(x,y,z) = xy2z3 = 2

grad f = 2xi + 2yj + 2zk
k grad g = k(y2z3i + 2xyz3j + 3z2xy2k

k = 2x/y2z3
k = 1/xz3
k = 2/3zxy2

and I am lost
 
So you know that 2x/y^2z^3 = 1/xz^3 ie. 2x^2=y^2, and you can subs that in and see what happens.
 
ok so i can sove for each of the variables

y = \sqrt{2x^2}

x = \sqrt{(y^2)/2}

z = \sqrt{(3y^2)/2}

how does that help
 

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