Thermal Expansion Calculation for a Rod Made of Alloy

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The discussion revolves around a thermal expansion problem involving a rod made of an alloy, specifically focusing on the changes in length as the rod is heated and then cooled. Participants are examining the calculations related to the thermal expansion and contraction of the rod.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the thermal expansion equation to determine the change in length of the rod when heated and cooled. Some participants affirm the approach but express frustration over discrepancies with expected answers.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the correctness of the calculations and the reliability of textbook answers. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by online homework systems, and some participants are questioning the validity of the negative result obtained after multiple submissions.

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Participants note the constraints of having to submit homework through a specific online platform, which may influence their understanding and confidence in their answers. There is also mention of potential errors in textbook solutions, which adds to the uncertainty in the discussion.

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Hey guys, the following is a HW question I believe I am doing correctly but I'm not getting the correct answer, any input would be appreciated!
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uestion: A rod made from a particular alloy is heated from 27.5 °C to 127 °C. Its length increases by 9.13 x 10-4 m. The rod is then cooled from 27.5 °C to 4.19 °C. By how much does the rod shrink?

After breaking down the basic thermal expansion equation I get: (9.13E-4 / 99.5)* (23.31) = change of L = 2.14E-4 m ... am I missing something because this doesn't seem too complicated
 
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If the thermal expansion is linear and the rate is constant, then this looks about right.
 
As far as I know, that is correct. It's slightly frustrating because I can't think of any reason my answer is wrong.
 
If your answer is not the same as that in the back of the book, it doesn't mean you are wrong.
When I was at school (many years ago), the answers in the back of my book were more often wrong than right. My old physics teacher quite liked the idea because, as he used to say, "it kept us on our toes".
 
Stonebridge said:
If your answer is not the same as that in the back of the book, it doesn't mean you are wrong.
When I was at school (many years ago), the answers in the back of my book were more often wrong than right. My old physics teacher quite liked the idea because, as he used to say, "it kept us on our toes".

yeah I completely agree but we have to submit our HW on a website (wiley). I still haven't found a problem with my answer though. Oh well, thanks anyways.
 
Wow after I submitted the answer for the 3rd time, it gave me a link to the solution. The answer was NEGATIVE 2.14E-4 which is wrong and a self-contradiction because something cannot shrink by a negative number - that would essentially mean it lengthened. And this is why HW done via websites can be extremely frustrating.
 

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