Thermodynamics: Heating a Rectangular Box

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving two rectangular houses of different sizes and the rate of heat supply required to maintain the same internal temperature under cold conditions. The original poster is exploring the relationship between the volume of the houses and the heat required, questioning whether the answer should be based on volume or surface area.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the heat supply to the volume of the houses, while others suggest considering the surface area as a key factor in heat loss. Questions about how heat escapes and the role of different dimensions in heating are also raised.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly the relationship between volume and surface area in the context of heat transfer. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of surface area, but no consensus has been reached on the correct answer.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a potential discrepancy in the answer key of the original test, which adds to the uncertainty in the discussion. Participants are also considering how the problem might change if the context were about heating a room rather than maintaining heat.

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Homework Statement


This question is from a thermodynamics test from a previous science olympiad competition that I am using to study from for a future test.
"Consider two neighboring rectangular houses built from the same materials. One of the houses has twice the length, width, and height of the other. Under identical climatic conditions, what would be true about the rate that heat would have to be supplied to maintain the same inside temperature on a cold day? Compared to the small house, the larger house would need heat supplied at:
A.) twice the rate
B.) 4 times the rate
C.) 16 times the rate
D.) 8 times the rate

Homework Equations



Volume of small box = l*w*h
Volume of large box = 2l*2w*2h = 8(l*w*h)
I honestly do not know if any other equations need apply here, being new to thermo I thought that it would just be a ratio of the volumes

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought that the answer should be D, 8 times the rate because the volume of the larger box is 8 times that of the smaller box. However, the test has the answer of B, four times the rate. I am not sure if this is a mistake in the key or if there is another equation that I should be using. Help is very much appreciated.
 
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How does heat escape a house? What route does it take?
 
Well I am assuming it does not go through the floor, so that might get taken out. Heat rises, so would I focus on only the height aspect?
 
The heat radiated is proportional to the surface area of the walls, so the answer is B.
 
fortissimo said:
The heat radiated is proportional to the surface area of the walls, so the answer is B.
Quite so, but the preferred style on these forums is to guide people into figuring things out for themselves, not just providing the answer.
 
Ok this makes sense. So if they asked about heating a room, instead of maintaining a heat, would the volume play a bigger role? I can see how the loss refers to the surface area now, since it would not be lost from the inside of the box (the volume). Thank you
 
spockjones20 said:
Ok this makes sense. So if they asked about heating a room, instead of maintaining a heat, would the volume play a bigger role?
If you mean heating it up from a lower temperature, yes, but even then perhaps not such a great role. Warming a room involves heating the air, but also the walls etc.
 

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