Thermodynamics Hw help, piston designing

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics homework project involving the design of a piston system that utilizes a liquid-vapor mixture to exert a force for closing sun-blocking window shutters. The project requires participants to determine the necessary components, including the spring constant and the amount of R-134a, while considering temperature changes affecting the system.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the homework problem, detailing the requirements for the piston design and the parameters involved, including the force needed and temperature changes.
  • The same participant mentions calculations regarding the natural length of the spring and its spring constant, indicating assumptions about system equilibrium at a specific temperature.
  • Another participant requests assistance in understanding the solution and asks for insights into the problem-solving process.
  • A different participant expresses a similar need for help, seeking hints to progress with their own project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the solution, as multiple participants express confusion and seek assistance, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided complete solutions or clarified specific assumptions, such as the treatment of atmospheric pressure or the implications of the piston diameter.

Who May Find This Useful

Students working on thermodynamics projects involving piston systems, liquid-vapor mixtures, or related design challenges may find this discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement


Have a design project in thermodynamics. The problem reads,

Someone has suggested that the device shown in the figure below be used to improve the maximum force F against the spring, which has a spring constant of k. This is accomplished by changing the temperature of the liquid-vapor mixture in the container. You are to design such a device to close sun-blocking window-shutters that require a maximum force of 0.5 lbf. The piston must move 6 inches to close those shutters completely. You elect to use R-134a as the working fluid and arrange the liquid-vapor mixture container such that he temperature changes from 70 degrees F when shaded from the sun to 100 degrees F when exposed to the full sun. Select the sizes of the various components in this system to do this task. Also select the necessary spring constant and the amount of R-134a to be used.


Homework Equations



Force=pressure*Area
Force=k*x

The Attempt at a Solution


All of my work and all the info I have been using is in the attachments. I have been working it on a whiteboard at school. I can only load 3 pics. I continued on and found that the natural length of the spring is 9.707 inches with a k value of 0.031833 Lbf/in.

I am assuming that at 100 degrees F that the system is in equilibrium and the force to keep the windows closed is 0.5 lbf. The picture also shows the piston is closed off, so I am assuming that I don't need to worry about atmospheric pressure. I can't see where I am going wrong, but the piston diameter seems to small. Is this right or am I reading the original problem wrong.
 

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Got it figured out.
 
I have assignment as what you did. So can you please give me your answer? so I can get some ideas. Please Help me.
 
Hi Nilkc, i have the same project and I'm having trouble with that, could you give me a hint?? hELP
 

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