Thermodynamics problem, help calculate the energy transfer

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The problem involves a thermodynamics scenario where a mass of steam undergoes expansion in a piston cylinder assembly. The specific energies of the steam at the initial and final states are provided, along with heat transfer and work input from a paddle wheel. The goal is to calculate the energy transfer by work from the steam on the piston during this process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to account for specific energies by multiplying them by the mass of the steam. There is a focus on dimensional analysis to ensure the correctness of the calculations. Questions arise regarding the correct application of energy equations and the interpretation of the work done by the steam.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to correctly approach the calculations, emphasizing the importance of dimensional consistency. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the direction of work done, with clarification sought on whether the work is from the steam to the piston or vice versa.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of specific energy units and their application in the energy transfer equations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations, indicating a need for further clarification and guidance.

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Homework Statement



A mass of 5 kg of steam is contained within a piston cylinder assembly. The steam undergoes an expansion from its initial state with e1 = 3000 kJ/kg to its final state with e2 = 2500 kJ/kg. During the process there is a heat transfer of 80 kJ to the steam. Also, a paddle wheel transfers 10 kJ of work to the steam. Calculate the amount of energy transfer by work from the steam on the piston during the process.

Homework Equations



dE = del Q - del W

The Attempt at a Solution



Would this be correct?
W = del Q - dE
= (80kJ + 10kJ) - (2500 kJ/kg - 3000 kJ/kg)
W = 590 kJ

I don't believe this is correct but it's all I have been able to come up with so far. Any guidance is appreciated
 
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e1 and e2 are specific energies. Multiply them by the steam mass.

You can not sum [kJ] and [kJ/kg].

Watching the dimensions in formulas is a great way to verify your solution.
 
sorry for my half asleep attempt...

Maxim Zh said:
e1 and e2 are specific energies. Multiply them by the steam mass.

You can not sum [kJ] and [kJ/kg].

Watching the dimensions in formulas is a great way to verify your solution.

so after multiplying the steam mass buy each of the energies would I just take the difference?

such that:

m*e2 - m*e1

(5kg)(2500 kJ/kg) - (5kg)(3000kJ/kg) = -2500 kJ
 
Yes, you would.

<br /> \Delta E = m(e_2 - e_1).<br />

By the way, the solution in the first post (after the correction) will give you the work done by the piston on the steam. But if I see it right the question is about the opposite value.
 

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