Thermodynamics - PV Diagram of an Ideal Gas

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The forum discussion focuses on calculating the heat absorbed by an ideal gas along different paths (ACB, ADB, and AB) on a PV diagram. The key equations used include PV = NKT and QAB = ΔU + ΔW, with ΔU calculated as 9/2NKT1 and the work done as NKT1. The confusion arises from the solution manual stating that QAB equals 6NKT1, which is incorrect according to the participants' calculations. The correct heat absorbed along path AB is determined to be 11/2NKT1.

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Thermodynamics -- PV Diagram of an Ideal Gas

Homework Statement



Right, I've got a PV diagram attached to make this easier to explain. The substance is an ideal gas.

I need to calculate the heat absorbed along the different paths ACB, ADB and AB. The first two are easy. The red lines in the diagram are isotherms.

Homework Equations



PV = NKT for an ideal gas.

QAB = ΔU + ΔW = ΔU + PΔV, U is internal energy, U = U(T) = CVT

For a monatomic ideal gas, CV = 3/2

The Attempt at a Solution



The change in internal energy is obviously just 3/2NK(4T1 - T1) = 9/2NKT1

The work done is P1(2V1 - V1) = NKT1

Thus the heat absorbed on the path AB is 11/2NKT1. My problem is the solution manual says it's 6NKT1.

It also says that ΔU + ΔW = 3/2(NK)(2T1) + 3/2P1V1 = 6NKT1 which obviously isn't true so I'm questioning it's integrity. It uses the fact that QAB = 6NKT1 in the proceeding problems as well so it's a little confusing.

Thanks for any help.
 

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The answer book is correct. For path AB, the average pressure is 3/2P1, and the volume change is V1.

Chet
 
Maybe_Memorie said:

Homework Statement



Right, I've got a PV diagram attached to make this easier to explain. The substance is an ideal gas.

I need to calculate the heat absorbed along the different paths ACB, ADB and AB. The first two are easy. The red lines in the diagram are isotherms.

Homework Equations



PV = NKT for an ideal gas.

QAB = ΔU + ΔW = ΔU + PΔV, U is internal energy, U = U(T) = CVT

For a monatomic ideal gas, CV = 3/2

The Attempt at a Solution



The change in internal energy is obviously just 3/2NK(4T1 - T1) = 9/2NKT1

The work done is P1(2V1 - V1) = NKT1

Thus the heat absorbed on the path AB is 11/2NKT1. My problem is the solution manual says it's 6NKT1.

It also says that ΔU + ΔW = 3/2(NK)(2T1) + 3/2P1V1 = 6NKT1 which obviously isn't true so I'm questioning it's integrity. It uses the fact that QAB = 6NKT1 in the proceeding problems as well so it's a little confusing.

Thanks for any help.
Chestermiller is right. The area under the graph from A-B is (P1+P2)(V2-V1)/2 = 3P1V1/2.

However, if the book says ΔU + ΔW = 3/2(NK)(2T1) + 3/2P1V1 , that is not correct. ΔU = 3/2(NK)(3T1) as you have noted.

AM
 
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