How Is Cp - Cv Calculated for an Ideal Monatomic Gas Using Thermodynamics?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the difference between the heat capacities at constant pressure and constant volume, \(C_p - C_v\), for an ideal monatomic gas using thermodynamic principles. The original poster attempts to apply a specific equation involving pressure, internal energy, and volume derivatives but arrives at an incorrect conclusion.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the application of thermodynamic equations and derivatives related to internal energy and volume. The original poster questions their differentiation process and seeks clarification on the implications of keeping temperature constant during differentiation.

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Some participants have provided guidance regarding the differentiation process, noting a potential misunderstanding in the application of the constant temperature condition. The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying concepts rather than reaching a consensus.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and seeks to identify the mistake in their reasoning. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly interpreting thermodynamic derivatives.

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Use the equation $$C_p - C_v = \left[ P + \left( \frac {∂U}{∂V} \right)_T\right] \left[ \left( \frac {∂V}{∂T} \right)_P \right]$$ to find ##C_p - C_v## for an ideal monatomic gas.

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##U = \frac {3}{2} RT##
##PV = RT##

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I substitute ##PV = RT## into the expression for ##U## to get ##U = \frac {3}{2} PV##, therefore

$$\left( \frac {∂U}{∂V} \right)_T = \frac {3}{2} P$$

Since ##PV=RT ⇒ V = \frac {RT}{P}##,

$$\left( \frac {∂V}{∂T} \right)_P = \frac {R}{P}$$

Therefore ##C_p - C_v = [P + \frac {3}{2} P][\frac {R}{P}] = \frac {5}{2} R## but the real answer is ##C_p - C_v = R##. What have I done wrong? I can't seem to find the mistake.
 
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subzero0137 said:
I substitute ##PV = RT## into the expression for ##U## to get ##U = \frac {3}{2} PV##, therefore

$$\left( \frac {∂U}{∂V} \right)_T = \frac {3}{2} P$$
The T suffix in
$$\left( \frac {∂U}{∂V} \right)_T $$
means keeping T constant. In performing the differentiation you appear to have kept P constant instead.
 
haruspex said:
The T suffix in
$$\left( \frac {∂U}{∂V} \right)_T $$
means keeping T constant. In performing the differentiation you appear to have kept P constant instead.

Oh I see. So the partial derivative would be 0?
 
subzero0137 said:
Oh I see. So the partial derivative would be 0?
Yes.
 

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