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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a thin rod with a uniform charge distribution. The rod is positioned along the x-axis, extending from -A to A, and the task is to derive expressions for charge density and the charge on a differential segment of the rod, ultimately to find the electric field at a specified point in space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct formulation of charge density and the relationship between charge and length. There are attempts to express the charge per unit length and the differential charge on a segment of the rod, with some questioning the appropriate total length used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the definitions of charge density and differential charge, while others are exploring their understanding of the problem setup. There appears to be progress as some participants report clarity on part A of the problem.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of the total length of the rod and its implications for the calculations. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem as they derive their expressions.

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Homework Statement


A thin rod lies on the x-axis with one end at -A and the other end at A, as shown in the diagram. A charge of -Q is spread uniformly over the surface of the rod. We want to set up an integral to find the electric field at location ‹ 0, y, 0 › due to the rod.

16-050-Erod_setup.jpg


Use the following as necessary: x, y, dx, A, Q. Remember that the rod has charge -Q.

(a) In terms of the symbolic quantities given above and on the diagram, what is the charge per unit length of the rod?
λ = ?

(b) What is the amount of charge dQ on the small piece of length dx?
dQ = ?

Homework Equations



Electric field of a uniformly charged Rod: 1/4πε0 * 2(Q/L) / r

The Attempt at a Solution


PartA: -ΔQ: I tried this because since I'm dividing the rods by a based amount, the charge Q, should be written by -ΔQ.
-ΔQ/L: I input this wrong, because it's suppose to be A, since that's the length of the rod. I was thinking of -ΔQ/A, because since I'm dividing the charge by a certain amount, I'm also dividing the length of the rod as well. Haven't tried it yet.

PartB: -dx/A: Well I think similarly like part a, we're dividing the rod again, should be divided by A. Was thinking of Q (dx/A) if I'm trying to find the dQ

Just need help on these parts. From there I'll attempt the rest of the parts on my own.
 
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Christian121 said:
I input this wrong, because it's suppose to be A, since that's the length of the rod.
The rod goes from x = -A to x = A. How long is it?
Well I think similarly like part a, we're dividing the rod again, should be divided by A. Was thinking of Q (dx/A) if I'm trying to find the dQ
You've got the right idea, just the wrong length.
 
tms said:
The rod goes from x = -A to x = A. How long is it?

I would think Part A: is λ = -ΔQ/-Δx, if it's being uniformly distributed.

You've got the right idea, just the wrong length.

Ok thanks , er dq = λ*dx? :P. I'll figure it out eventually.
 
In the first part, the charge density is the total charge divided by the total length. The total length is not A.

Yes, dq = \lambda \:dx.
 
tms said:
In the first part, the charge density is the total charge divided by the total length. The total length is not A.

Yes, dq = \lambda \:dx.

Ok got part A I believe now. It's -Q/2*A.

Thanks for your help. I got the rest of the parts on this problem right as well.
 

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