This solution doesn't make sense to me (Probability)

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The problem involves forming a team of three boys and four girls from a larger group, with the constraint that two of the girls cannot be on the same team due to a feud. The subject area is probability and combinatorics, specifically focusing on combinations and restrictions in selection.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the combination formula to determine the number of ways to select boys and girls. There is confusion regarding the reasoning behind the inclusion of certain terms in the solution, particularly the second term in the brackets related to the feuding girls.

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Some participants have provided clarifications on the reasoning behind the solution terms, particularly how the selections are made considering the feud. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants engaging in exploring the logic of the problem.

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The problem is constrained by the requirement that two specific girls cannot be on the same team, which is a key aspect of the discussion. There is also a repeated emphasis on the combination formula and its application in this context.

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Homework Statement


A team consisting of three boys and four girls must be formed from a group of nine boys and eight girls. If two of the girls are feuding and refusing to play on the same team, how many possibilities do we have?

Homework Equations


Combination formula \binom{n}{r}=\frac{n!}{(n-r)!r!}

The Attempt at a Solution


My logic was that there are \binom{9}{3} ways to choose the boys. For the girls I am a bit confused on how I would approach it. There are \binom{6}{4} ways of choosing with only one of the girls who are fighting. But I do not know where to go from here.

The solution says..

\binom{9}{3}\left[ \binom{6}{4}+2\binom{6}{3} \right]

Almost got it, but I do not understand the logic behind the second term in the brackets.
 
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The C(6, 4) term is choosing four among the girls who aren't fighting. The C(6, 3) terms chooses three girls from the 6 not fighting, assuming one of the girls fighting is on the team.
 
Xyius said:

Homework Statement


A team consisting of three boys and four girls must be formed from a group of nine boys and eight girls. If two of the girls are feuding and refusing to play on the same team, how many possibilities do we have?


Homework Equations


Combination formula \binom{n}{r}=\frac{n!}{(n-r)!r!}


The Attempt at a Solution


My logic was that there are \binom{9}{3} ways to choose the boys. For the girls I am a bit confused on how I would approach it. There are \binom{6}{4} ways of choosing with only one of the girls who are fighting. But I do not know where to go from here.

The solution says..

\binom{9}{3}\left[ \binom{6}{4}+2\binom{6}{3} \right]

Almost got it, but I do not understand the logic behind the second term in the brackets.

If Amy (A) and Brenda (B) are the two feuding girls you can pick girls for the team by (i) exlcuding both A and B; (ii) including A but excluding B; (ii) including B but excluding A.

RGV
 
Thanks a lot guys! I understand now! :D
 

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