This was on my exam. I wasn't sure how to solve it.

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving force vectors and work done by a force on a particle. Participants are exploring how to express the relationship between force, displacement, and the angle between them, particularly in the context of a particle starting from rest and experiencing a constant force.

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  • Participants discuss expressing the dot product of force and displacement in terms of magnitudes and angles. Questions arise about how to determine the angle between the force and displacement, and the implications of the force being constant. There is also consideration of the relationship between the direction of force and displacement.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between force and displacement. Some participants suggest calculating the magnitude of the force needed to achieve a specific amount of work, while others question how to find the angle involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between force and displacement direction.

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Participants note that the problem involves a particle at rest and a force applied in a specific direction, leading to discussions about the assumptions regarding angles and directions in the context of the problem.

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I tried to solve for the force vectors but I had no clue how to do it? I tried plenty of times after the exam and still haven't found the components. Help?

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Can you express ##\vec{F} \cdot \Delta\vec{r}## in terms of the magnitude of the force, the magnitude of the displacement, and the angle between the force and the displacement?

In this problem, what is the angle between the force and the displacement?
 
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Yes, but I don't see how you can find the angle between them. You need a given angle or the force vector?
 
The particle starts from rest. The force is constant in magnitude and direction. So, how does the direction of the force relate to the direction of the displacement?
 
They relate by the dot product of the force vector and position vector. Vector F dot Vector r = abs F * cos()* abs r. Or by components, vector F dot vector r = Fx*rx + Fy*ry...
 
OK. So ##W = Frcosθ##.

You should be able to get the magnitude of the force from this equation. You just need to know what to use for r and θ.
Once you get ##F## you should be able to express the force vector ##\vec{F}## in component form.
 
When you push something at rest, what direction does it move with respect to the force you applied?
 
I don't see how you can find the angle to begin with.. For r I'd simply use sqrt(20).
 
If an object is at rest when a force is applied in the x direction, which way does the object move?
 
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According to the problem statement, the force and displacement are going to be pointing in the same direction. So the angle between them is zero. First calculate the magnitude of the force necessary to cause 24 J of work when the particle travels sqrt(20) meters. Then determine the equation for a unit vector in the same direction as r. This will be the unit vector in the direction as F also.

Chet
 

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