Thoughts about Keith R Symon's textbook

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The discussion revolves around the textbook "Classical Mechanics" by Keith R. Symon, with participants sharing their experiences and recommendations for additional resources in classical mechanics. The scope includes personal recommendations, comparisons with other textbooks, and considerations for progressing in classical mechanics studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses enjoyment in using John R. Taylor's classical mechanics textbook and seeks opinions on Symon's book, indicating a desire for more challenging problems.
  • Some participants suggest that Symon's textbook is at a similar level to other recommended texts, such as Marion and Thornton, and provide links to these resources.
  • Another participant mentions having worked through Marion and Thornton in detail and questions whether this background is sufficient to start Goldstein's textbook, indicating a need for a solid foundation before advancing.
  • Some participants express differing opinions on the verbosity of Goldstein's textbook, with one preferring Greenwood for its conciseness.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about using Symon's textbook for a qualifying exam in the 1970s, noting its lesser-known status compared to other texts today.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Symon's textbook is a valid resource for classical mechanics, but there are multiple competing views regarding the best preparatory texts and the appropriateness of transitioning to Goldstein's textbook. The discussion remains unresolved on the best path forward for students transitioning from foundational texts to more advanced studies.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific chapters in Goldstein's textbook that may not be necessary for standard courses, indicating a potential limitation in the applicability of the material covered.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students in physics or related fields seeking recommendations for classical mechanics textbooks and guidance on transitioning to more advanced materials.

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Hello there, I am an undergraduate student in my final year. I have been using classical mechanics by John R Taylor, which I should say I have absolutely enjoyed working through so far. I now feel I am prepared for a slightly more challenging set of problems and mathematical rigour. My professor suggested to me this textbook, https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201073927/?tag=pfamazon01-20.
Having never used nor heard of this book(no offence intended to enthusiasts, if any at all :smile:), I would greatle appreciate your thoughts about this book. I thank you all in advance.
 
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Shyan said:

I have worked through M&T in a lot of detail. I am only left with the problems from continuous systems and special relativity. The aim is to work through Goldstein's as soon as possible. I felt I needed an abridgement before I begin Goldstein's. Do you reckon M&T would be enough? Can I start Goldstein's if I have worked through M&T and Taylor's?
 
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Bleakfacade said:
I have worked through M&T in a lot of detail. I am only left with the problems from continuous systems and special relativity. The aim is to work through Goldstein's as soon as possible. I felt I needed an abridgement before I begin Goldstein's. Do you reckon M&T would be enough? Can I start Goldstein's if I have worked through M&T and Taylor's?

I think you'll have no problem if you try hard enough. You won't need to cover all chapters of the Goldstein though because the chapters on canonical transformations, Hamilton-Jacobi theory, Chaos and Perturbation theory are not part of standard courses on classical mechanics.
 
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alan2 said:
If you've finished Marion and understood it I suggest https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486696901/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Can't go wrong at the price. Some people might like Goldstein but I find it a bit verbose. Greenwood gets to the point.

Thank you Alan, I will go through this book.

@Shyan: The intention is to go into the very heart of classical mechanics. I want to have a well hardened foundation before I start solid mechanics and Quantum mechanics. However, I appreciate your advice.
 
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Symon is a good classical mechanics textbook at roughly the same level as Marion and Thornton. I recommend it. It may be a little harder to find than Marion. I used it to for my qualifying exam in the 1970's. It is not as well known these days but your professor was right to recommend it.
 

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