Three dimensional collision with bowling ball and pin.

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving a bowling ball and a pin during an elastic collision. The bowling ball, traveling at 15.0 m/s and having eight times the mass of the pin, strikes the pin at an angle of 75°. The speed of the pin after the collision is calculated to be 6.9 m/s using the conservation of momentum and energy equations. Participants emphasize the importance of setting up the conservation equations correctly before substituting values to avoid confusion in solving for the final velocities and angles.

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Homework Statement


In order to convert a tough split in bowling, it is necessary to strike the pin a glancing blow as shown in the figure. Assume that the bowling ball, initially traveling at 15.0 m/s, has eight times the mass of a pin and that the pin goes off at 75° from the original direction of the ball.

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(a) Calculate the speed of the pin.
(b) Calculate the speed of the ball just after collision.
(c) Calculate the angle θ through which the ball was deflected. Assume the collision is elastic and ignore any spin of the ball.

Homework Equations


MbVb+MpVp=MbVB+MpVP (Mb=mass of ball, Mp=mass of pin, Vp=initial velocity for pin, VP=final velocity for pin, Vb=initial velocity for ball, VB=final velocity for ball.)


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea how to even attempt this problem.
 
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Try writing down your Conservation of Momentum equations
 
Should I write down the formula first? Should I plug in the numbers and continue trying to cancel out unknown variables? The conservation of energy and momentum equations are realllllly long -_-
 
I would like too bump this-I have the same question!
I tried so far using the p=mv equation in both dimensions (since in the x direction it equals zero!), however I can't seem to solve for what they're asking…my algebraic manipulations aren't as well.
 
This is in the homework section and the forum requires you to show your working/attempt. How else can we see where you are going wrong ;-)

unrulypanda said:
Should I write down the formula first? Should I plug in the numbers and continue trying to cancel out unknown variables? The conservation of energy and momentum equations are realllllly long -_-

It's not usually a good ide to plug in the numbers early on.
 
unrulypanda said:
the bowling ball, initially traveling at 15.0 m/s, has eight times the mass of a pin and that the pin goes off at 75° from the original direction of the ball.
Hi, I do not know if the formula for balls is valid for pins, if it is ...then
you know cos λp (75°) = 0.2588 and the ratio Rm of Mb to total mass 8/9
you get quickly vp = v0* cos λ* 2R (15*0.25*16/9) = 6.9 m/s
the you can easily find all missing data (with the E and p formulas.)
 
The problem statement contains no information on the vertical dimension so this is really a 2D problem.
 

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