Three mutually tangent circles

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The problem involves three mutually tangent circles of equal radius, enclosing a shaded area of 24 square units. Participants are tasked with determining the radius, r, based on the given area and geometric relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the radius of the circles and the area of the shaded region, considering the geometry of an equilateral triangle formed by the centers of the circles. There are attempts to relate the area of sectors of the circles to the overall area.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various geometric relationships and attempting to derive expressions for the area of the sectors and the shaded region. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the radius and the triangle formed by the centers of the circles.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to express areas in terms of the radius and the specific area of the shaded region provided. There is a noted confusion regarding the relationship between the sectors and the shaded area.

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Homework Statement



Three mutually tangent circles with the same radius r enclose a shaded area of 24 square units. Determine the value of r to the nearest unit.

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do i use the arc length formula to find the answer?


3. The Attempt at a Solution

A=(central angle*pi*r^2)/360
the central angle is 60 because if u draw a triangle between the three centers of the circles it is equilateral...but i don't know how to get r with only this information
 
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Hi Megrs@! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a degree: ° and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
Megrs said:
Three mutually tangent circles with the same radius r enclose a shaded area of 24 square units. Determine the value of r to the nearest unit.

the central angle is 60 because if u draw a triangle between the three centers of the circles it is equilateral...but i don't know how to get r with only this information

You're almost there!

Stay with that triangle …

it has the shaded area inside it, so what's left? :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Megrs@! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a degree: ° and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)


You're almost there!

Stay with that triangle …

it has the shaded area inside it, so what's left? :wink:


what is left are the sectors of the circles and if u make each one=x then 3x+24=A of the triangle. the arc length is r(2*pi*central angle/360) i don't think that gives any useful information though...except maybe help prove the answer once i find it...
 
Hi Megrs! :wink:

(what happened to that π i gave you? :confused:)

Yes, three sectors …

now, you know the radius and the angle of each sector, so the area is … ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Megrs! :wink:

(what happened to that π i gave you? :confused:)

Yes, three sectors …

now, you know the radius and the angle of each sector, so the area is … ? :smile:


what n?? i don't get it...
no, i know the angle of the sectors...i do NOT know the radius that is what i have to find...so i don't know the area of the sectors either
 
(it's not an "n", its a "π" !)

Yes, but you know that r is half the side of your equilateral triangle! :wink:

so the area of the shaded part (as a multiple of r) is … ? :smile:
 
i know r is half the side i don't get how to relate this all together because the shaded part is not part of the circles...the area of the shaded part is 24. the area of a sector is (24-area of the triangle)/3...
 
so as a factor of r, the area of a sector is … ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
so as a factor of r, the area of a sector is … ? :smile:

area of a sector is 60*r^2*pi/360
 
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Megrs said:
area of a sector is 60*r^2*pi/360

so as a multiple of r, the area of the shaded part is … ? :smile:
 
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i don't know because the shaded part is not part of the sectors...
r=sqrt(360*area of sector/60pi)
?
 

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