Time and gravity on the quantum level?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between time and gravity at the quantum level, exploring whether the effects of gravity on time can be quantified as mass decreases. Participants consider the implications of general relativity and the behavior of time in relation to gravity, particularly at different scales.

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  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that gravity slows time and questions if this effect can be calculated with decreasing mass at the quantum scale.
  • Another participant challenges the initial premise, stating that not all effects of gravity diminish with smaller objects and asserts that clocks of different sizes will tick the same under similar gravitational influences.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about extrapolating the effects of gravity on time from large scales down to the quantum level, questioning if time could be quantified differently at these scales.
  • Further clarification is provided that while time can be affected by gravity, all objects experience the same degree of time dilation under similar conditions, making it undetectable without comparative measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of gravity on time at various scales, with no consensus reached on whether time can be quantified differently at the quantum level.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about the effects of gravity on time, particularly at the quantum scale, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical implications of these effects.

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Time and gravity on the quantum level??

Gravity has been proven to slow time, and gravity has less an effect the smaller the object, and little to no effect at the quantum scale. So can we calculate the lessening effect of gravity with decreasing mass of an object? Then can we stretch out time in relation to that correlation to quantify time on the quantum level?
 
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jarroe said:
Gravity has been proven to slow time, and gravity has less an effect the smaller the object, and little to no effect at the quantum scale. So can we calculate the lessening effect of gravity with decreasing mass of an object? Then can we stretch out time in relation to that correlation to quantify time on the quantum level?
Not all effects of gravity are less with smaller objects. Remember the story of Galileo dropping two balls of different size off the Tower of Pisa? The same with how time is affected by gravity. A big clock and a small clock will tick the same under the same influence of gravity. So the answers to your two questions are "no". Are you thinking maybe something along the lines of how you would weigh less on the moon than you do on their earth?
 


No, I just thought since time is relative and affected by very large objects in space that warp space-time, I thought if we could extraoplate it mathmatically down to the quantum level guess I was just seeing if time on the quantum scale could be quantified as moving different from time at the normal large scales?
 


jarroe said:
No, I just thought since time is relative and affected by very large objects in space that warp space-time, I thought if we could extraoplate it mathmatically down to the quantum level guess I was just seeing if time on the quantum scale could be quantified as moving different from time at the normal large scales?
But even when time is slowed down, such as it is to a very small extent on the surface of the Earth at different elevations, all objects experience the same slow down and so it is not detectable. It's only when we compare how fast a clock is ticking at one elevation to an identical clock at a different elevation that we can detect the difference.
 

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