Time dilation to go a specific distance

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time dilation in the context of traveling to Alpha Centauri A, which is 4.37 light years away, at a velocity of 0.92c. Participants explore the implications of special relativity on time experienced by travelers versus observers on Earth, including calculations of time in different reference frames.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the time taken to travel to Alpha Centauri using the formula t = d/v, resulting in 4.74 years from the Earth reference frame.
  • The same participant then calculates the time experienced on the spaceship using time dilation, yielding 1.86 years, and expresses confusion about the relationship between these times.
  • Another participant confirms that 4.74 years is indeed the time from the Earth reference frame.
  • There is a suggestion that the time on Earth could be 12.09 years, depending on the interpretation of the scenario.
  • One participant mentions the concept of length contraction and how it affects the perceived speed of Earth from the spaceship's perspective.
  • Several participants discuss formatting issues with mathematical expressions, suggesting corrections for clarity.
  • Another participant references a similar ongoing thread about an astronaut returning from a star, indicating that the principles discussed may be relevant to the current scenario.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the time experienced by travelers versus observers on Earth, with no clear consensus on the correct interpretation of the time calculations or the implications of length contraction.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly concerning the reference frames and the implications of time dilation and length contraction.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying special relativity, time dilation, and the effects of high-velocity travel on time perception, as well as participants in similar physics forums.

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Traveling on a spaceship to Alpha Centauri A, 4.37 light years away, at a velocity of 0.92 c,
if you just calculate the time by dividing the distance by the velocity:
t = \frac{d}{v} = 1.496 x 10^8 sec = 4.74 years

Is this the time from the Earth reference frame?
Then the time on the spaceship is:

t' = t \sqrt{ 1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}} = 1.86 years
This is less than the time it takes light to reach Earth. Using length contraction on the spaceship, then determining the time to travel the shorter distance results in this same time.

OR, the time of 4.74 years is the time onboard the spaceship and the time on Earth is 12.09 years.

I'm confused!
 
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Hi, change the backslash in the \tex to a forward slash and it will display properly.
 
Mentz114 said:
Hi, change the backslash in the \tex to a forward slash and it will display properly.
Thanks! I figured that out.
 
welcome to pf!

hi sparks97! welcome to pf! :smile:
sparks97 said:
Traveling on a spaceship to Alpha Centauri A, 4.37 light years away, at a velocity of 0.92 c,
if you just calculate the time by dividing the distance by the velocity:
t = \frac{d}{v} = 1.496 x 10^8 sec = 4.74 years

Is this the time from the Earth reference frame?

yes :smile:
Then the time on the spaceship is:

t' = t \sqrt{ 1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}} = 1.86 years
This is less than the time it takes light to reach Earth. Using length contraction on the spaceship, then determining the time to travel the shorter distance results in this same time.

OR, the time of 4.74 years is the time onboard the spaceship and the time on Earth is 12.09 years.

the spaceship regards both alpha centauri and Earth as moving, so the length is contracted

since the spaceship clock reading is also lower, by the same amount, that means the spaceship measures the speed of the Earth as the same, v :wink:
Mentz114 said:
Hi, change the backslash in the \tex to a forward slash and it will display properly.

or just type two #s before and after: ##\sqrt{ 1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}##
 
There's an ongoing thread with almost the same scenario. The astronaut is coming back from a star almost 4 light-years away, taking 2 years of his time to be here. But the principles are the same and might help you understand.
 
ghwellsjr said:
There's an ongoing thread with almost the same scenario. The astronaut is coming back from a star almost 4 light-years away, taking 2 years of his time to be here. But the principles are the same and might help you understand.

I posted a Thanks to Tiny Tim. I'm not sure where it went.

Thanks for posting this link to the other thread. Great forum here!
 
sparks97 said:
I posted a Thanks to Tiny Tim. I'm not sure where it went.

it goes into the recipient's "MY PF" :wink:
 

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