Time Lag in Calls: Experiment & Confirmations

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The discussion revolves around the time lag experienced during mobile phone calls, particularly focusing on the sources of delay and personal experiments to measure this lag. Participants explore both theoretical aspects and practical observations related to the phenomenon.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant conducted an experiment to measure the time lag in a mobile call and observed a considerable delay, seeking confirmation from others.
  • Another participant outlined multiple sources of time lag in digital transceivers, including sound reception, processing, transmission, and routing, noting that these delays can range from milliseconds to seconds.
  • A high school student described their own experiment involving singing along to a song during a call, estimating a lag of about 0.25 seconds based on their observations of the timing difference.
  • A later reply confirmed the student's understanding of the lag and reiterated that the delays in the signal path contribute to the overall experience of time lag in phone calls.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and detail regarding the sources of time lag, with some confirming the student's observations while others provide more technical explanations. There is no clear consensus on the exact nature or extent of the time lag experienced.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the speed of sound and light, as well as the complexity of digital signal processing, which may not be fully addressed by all participants. The estimates of time lag are based on personal observations and may vary significantly.

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Individuals interested in telecommunications, signal processing, or those curious about the practical implications of technology on communication may find this discussion relevant.

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I was wondering how much time lag would be there if one called in a local place using mobile phone. I did a simple experiment which showed that there is a considerable time lag. Can anyone further confirm this?
 
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There are several sources of "time lag" in digital transceivers.

1) Rx of Sound and A/D conversion and processing.
2) Transmission to Cell Tower.
3) Cell Tower processing and routing.
4) Transmission from cell tower to cell tower.
5) Second Cell Tower processing and queuing.
6) Transmission from Cell Tower.
7) Rx of Digital packet, processing and D/A conversion.

The fact that all of this typically takes place in the mS to Second time domain is astonishing!

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Err...I should have told you that I am just in high school and hence have no idea of what you are talking about. I will tell you my experiment.
I called a friend, turned on a song and asked him to sing along with the song. If he hears the song after t seconds, he will start singing after t second. his voice will also come to me after t seconds. so the difference in beats that I hear directly and from him is 2t.
On casually listening the difference was about 0.5 seconds. so the lag would be about 0.25s.
Is it correct?
 
ashishsinghal said:
Err...I should have told you that I am just in high school and hence have no idea of what you are talking about. I will tell you my experiment.
I called a friend, turned on a song and asked him to sing along with the song. If he hears the song after t seconds, he will start singing after t second. his voice will also come to me after t seconds. so the difference in beats that I hear directly and from him is 2t.
On casually listening the difference was about 0.5 seconds. so the lag would be about 0.25s.
Is it correct?

The simple version: there are delays in the signal path of the phone so what you say into your phone is not instantaneously appearing on the remote phone - it takes some time. A lot of it is because though the speed of light is fast, it's not infinitely fast.

So yes, in summary, you are correct. The list given by the other respondent is simply the explicated source of each component delay that adds up to what you experience.
 

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