Time period of 2 disks connected by a spring

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The problem involves two identical disks connected by a spring, with the objective of finding the time period of small oscillations for two cases: when the disks rotate in the same sense and when they rotate in opposite sense. The discussion centers around the equations governing angular simple harmonic motion (SHM) and the challenges faced in deriving the time period for these oscillations.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the time period for case B but encounters an issue where the angular acceleration is proportional to the cube of the angular displacement, complicating the reduction to SHM. Participants question how to approach this problem and seek clarification on the equations involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the clarity of the original poster's work. There is a suggestion to use LaTeX for better representation of equations, indicating a focus on improving communication of the problem setup.

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There is mention of an unreadable image that was intended to illustrate the problem, which may hinder understanding. The original poster is considering creating a new thread with clearer representation of the question.

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Homework Statement
2 identical disks (1 & 2) each of mass M and radius R are lying on a flat surface. They are free to rotate about their axis. They are connected by a spring of spring constant 'K'.
Find time period of small oscillations such that :-
Case A: spring 1 and 2 always rotate in same sense.
Case B: spring 1 and 2 always rotate in opposite sense.
Relevant Equations
torque(τ) = (radius vector)×(force vector)
torque(τ) = (moment of inertia I)(angular acceleration α)
Equation of angular SHM, α = -(ω^(2))(θ)
My attempt at solving case B

I've attached my attempt at case B above. What problem I'm facing is that after writing equation of angular SHM, I'm getting angular acceleration proportional to cube of angular displacement, which doesn't reduce to SHM. So how to find time period for this oscillations, or how to reduce it to SHM?Proper diagram with question
 
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Vivek33010 said:
Homework Statement:: 2 identical disks (1 & 2) each of mass M and radius R are lying on a flat surface. They are free to rotate about their axis. They are connected by a spring of spring constant 'K'.
Find time period of small oscillations such that :-
Case A: spring 1 and 2 always rotate in same sense.
Case B: spring 1 and 2 always rotate in opposite sense.
Relevant Equations:: torque(τ) = (radius vector)×(force vector)
torque(τ) = (moment of inertia I)(angular acceleration α)
Equation of angular SHM, α = -(ω^(2))(θ)

My attempt at solving case B

I've attached my attempt at case B above. What problem I'm facing is that after writing equation of angular SHM, I'm getting angular acceleration proportional to cube of angular displacement, which doesn't reduce to SHM. So how to find time period for this oscillations, or how to reduce it to SHM?Proper diagram with question
Welcome to PF. :smile:

Unfortunately, the image is unreadable. Maybe instead, check out the "LaTeX Guide" link below, and type your work into the Edit window? That makes it a lot easier to read and reply to. Thanks. :smile:

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berkeman said:
Welcome to PF. :smile:

Unfortunately, the image is unreadable. Maybe instead, check out the "LaTeX Guide" link below, and type your work into the Edit window? That makes it a lot easier to read and reply to. Thanks. :smile:

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I write a new question or just edit this one?
 
You can just reply below with the update to this problem. Or do you mean what you should do if you have a new/different question? In that case please start a new thread. Basically it is one thread per question/problem.
 
berkeman said:
You can just reply below with the update to this problem. Or do you mean what you should do if you have a new/different question? In that case please start a new thread. Basically it is one thread per question/problem.
I'll make a new thread, with the same question, but with better representation. I'll see if I can use latex because I don't know what it is. New thread coming right up
 
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Then I'll close this thread for now. Let me know if you want it back open (send me a message by clicking on my avatar and "Start a Conversation").
 

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