Time period of Mass attached to 3 springs

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The problem involves three springs with equal force constants arranged at 120-degree angles, and the task is to calculate the time period of oscillation for a mass attached to these springs when slightly displaced. The discussion focuses on the vector forces exerted by the springs and the resultant force acting on the mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the vector components of forces from the springs and question the correctness of their calculations regarding the net force. There are inquiries about the implications of directionality in vector sums and the effects of displacement on the springs.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the vector components of the forces from the springs, while others are exploring different interpretations of the forces involved. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the calculations and assumptions regarding the forces acting on the mass.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made about the spring forces and their contributions to the overall system.

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Homework Statement


There are three springs A, B and C with equal force constants as k. Springs are placed such as the angle between two consecutive springs is 120 degrees. Calculate the time period of oscillation if the mass is slightly pushed towards C and released.

Homework Equations


Force from spring A = -kx
Force from spring B = -kx
Force from spring C = -kx

Vector sum of forces from spring A and B = kx
As the direction of resultant force vector is on same line as force from spring C.
Net Force = 2kx

Which lands me up on wrong answer.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I think all springs would have the force -kx in the direction stated in the diagram above. I know that it is also the point I'm making mistake.(As vector sum of B and A springs comes out to be kx, which means total force would be 2kx)
My doubts are,
1) Would be helpful if you correct me there with where I'm wrong with forces from A and B, i can solve it after that.
2) Too silly to ask but when i do the vector sum and magnitude comes out to be \sqrt{k^{2}x^{2}}, should i always take it as kx or there is a possibility of -kx also? I know the negative sign implies the direction in single dimension and when dealing with vectors we get the direction from tan \alpha. Just wanted to clear the small doubt.
 
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A small displacement 'x' in the direction of 'C' does not cause the same displacements for springs A and B resp. Try to find the component of 'x' in the direction of A and B.
 
I had a similar doubt so i am joining in the thread...Anyway Abdul Quadeer...can u just check what i did...I am getting extention of either of spring A or B to be xcos 60 ie x/2 (please refer to my attachment diagram)... So two forces each of magnitude kx/2 at 120degree to each other gives the net force due to these two to be kx/2 in the direction symetrical to A and B...So net force on mass is 3/2*kx...So noe i have the net spring constant so i can get the time period...Am i correct?
 

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Yeah you are right.
 
Ok...thanks...
 

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