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The discussion revolves around strategies for obtaining samples of materials, particularly for students and budding entrepreneurs with limited R&D budgets. Participants share their experiences and suggestions regarding effective communication with manufacturers and customer service representatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests being honest and respectful when requesting samples, emphasizing the importance of knowing what is needed and doing thorough research on manufacturers.
  • Another participant shares that personal interaction tends to yield better results, advocating for building rapport with representatives.
  • Some participants express discomfort with establishing personal bonds, preferring to maintain a professional demeanor in communications.
  • There is a discussion about the effectiveness of phone calls versus emails, with some arguing that phone calls can lead to quicker resolutions.
  • One participant critiques personality tests, suggesting they can limit self-awareness and adaptability, while another mentions using such tests for personal insight.
  • A request is made for example scripts or prompts for phone conversations, with a suggestion that a flexible approach is necessary rather than a rigid script.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of the word "only" in requests, as it may trivialize the ask and affect the willingness of the representative to help.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views on the best approach to obtaining samples, with some advocating for personal connections while others prefer a more professional stance. There is no consensus on the most effective method, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in approaches to communication, suggesting that what works for one may not work for another. The discussion reflects differing comfort levels with personal interaction and the nuances of language in requests.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in strategies for acquiring material samples, particularly in engineering and research contexts.

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If you are a student, or a budding entrepreneur, your R&D budget may be limited.
But it is during this time that getting your hands on material is most important!
I've had some success with (what is basically) e-begging so I'm sharing my strategies with anyone that can make use of them

1) be honest ("Engineers shall act in such a manner as to uphold and enhance the honor, integrity, and dignity of the engineering profession")

2) Know (more or less) what you want, and what you plan to do with it.

3) Do your research. Now that you have an idea of what you want, you can look for manufacturers (NOT distributors/resellers/etc) of the product. This is where your google-fu must be strong.
things to find out before asking for stuff (write it down if you have to)
the name (brand name, if possible) of what you want
the size of the product
the corresponding serial number
the customer service email
if you can, the name of the C.S. representative you're trying to contact


4) be respectful, courteous, and CONCISE- these are businesses that you're talking to. one person may be dealing with dozens of emails a day.


SAMPLE EMAIL

Greetings,

I am <your name>, a student at <your university>, and a participant in <whatever you are trying to do>
I am investigating the use of <your intended use for the product> I was wondering if there was any way I could obtain samples of your <name the product> in XX inches (model number YYY) <replace XX inches with the sizes you want, and the model number that corresponds to that>
I only need about <the quantity you need> of each.
Any contribution you could make would be incredibly helpful in advancing my education as well as <intended use>, and I would of course mention any contribution that you would be generous enough to share.

Respectfully,
<your name>
<contact information>

hope this helps!
 
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I've always had more luck actually talking to people. Being personable is becoming a lost art, but most representatives try to be helpful once they feel some bond with you or your work.
 
Mike_In_Plano said:
I've always had more luck actually talking to people. Being personable is becoming a lost art, but most representatives try to be helpful once they feel some bond with you or your work.

care to elaborate on your response?


as an INTJ, it's hard for me to relate to establish "bonds" with people. i would much rather work on the platform of professional respect.
i imagine there are a lot of INTJs in engineering, but I have a feeling that when you contact the customer service department, you'll be talking to an HR drone- basically the antithesis of an INTJ.
 
jehan60188 said:
care to elaborate on your response?


as an INTJ, it's hard for me to relate to establish "bonds" with people. i would much rather work on the platform of professional respect.
i imagine there are a lot of INTJs in engineering, but I have a feeling that when you contact the customer service department, you'll be talking to an HR drone- basically the antithesis of an INTJ.

Worst thing anyone can ever do is take one of those bloody stupid tests. Put yourself if a nice little box and say 'sorry can't do this' it's not in my nature.

I don't like phone calls to people I don't know, but becomes easy after you just get on with it. It's fairly amazing how quickly stuff gets done after a single phone call vs email tennis.
 
xxChrisxx said:
Worst thing anyone can ever do is take one of those bloody stupid tests. Put yourself if a nice little box and say 'sorry can't do this' it's not in my nature.

I don't like phone calls to people I don't know, but becomes easy after you just get on with it. It's fairly amazing how quickly stuff gets done after a single phone call vs email tennis.

the worst thing is to take the test to heart without any self evaluation. since I am able to think for myself, I used it as a tool to be more aware of my strengths and weaknesses.
but let's get back on topic-

would you care to share an example script, or prompts for what to say on the phone?
 
jehan60188 said:
the worst thing is to take the test to heart without any self evaluation. since I am able to think for myself, I used it as a tool to be more aware of my strengths and weaknesses.
but let's get back on topic-

would you care to share an example script, or prompts for what to say on the phone?

A script? Bit odd as there isn't a one sized fits all approach to getting free stuff.

Greetings.
Introduction.
What you are after.
Elaboration <if necessary>.
Contact information.
Thanks.

Basically exactly the same as what you put in the email. The only thing you have to do is not sound miserable or monotone, a jolly but professional tone is best.

I'd also never say 'I only need x' in an opening mail/call. The word 'only' trivialises the request, and approaching numbers may put people off if it's more than they are willing to give.
Just work out if they are willing to help, then approach the quantities later. Getting less than you want is better than getting none of what you need, especially if its free.
 

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