Titanium Nickel Alloy: Strength & Durability

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of titanium nickel alloy, specifically its strength, durability, and potential applications, including its effectiveness in bulletproofing and use in automobiles. Participants explore the material's characteristics, costs, and practical considerations in manufacturing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the bulletproof capabilities of titanium nickel alloy, suggesting that its titanium content may contribute to strength.
  • One participant questions the appropriateness of measuring voltage in degrees, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the discussion.
  • Another participant raises the cost of titanium nickel alloy compared to other materials, noting that while it may have novel properties, its expense makes it impractical for mass production in automobiles.
  • A participant mentions that nitinol, a titanium nickel alloy, may not provide protection against high-energy collisions or ballistic impacts due to its deformation characteristics.
  • Concerns are expressed about the manufacturing challenges of nitinol, including its tendency to revert to flat sheets when heated, suggesting that specialized processes would be necessary for its use in vehicle components.
  • Participants reference the use of ABS and memory plastics as more cost-effective and easier alternatives for vehicle manufacturing compared to nitinol.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality and effectiveness of titanium nickel alloy for automotive applications, with no consensus reached regarding its bulletproof capabilities or suitability for production vehicles.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the cost and manufacturing processes of titanium nickel alloy, as well as the need for clarification on technical terms used in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in materials science, automotive engineering, and the applications of advanced alloys may find this discussion relevant.

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I’ve been doing some research on nitinol. I figured it could replace many of the steel components in cars. If the car were to crash my hypothesis is that with the right voltage let’s say about 70 degrees, would the car fix itself for the most part?
Also how bullet proof is it? I know it is a titanium nickel alloy so I’m guessing it may be strong with the titanium in it.
 
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Mark carlyle said:
...the right voltage let’s say about 70 degrees ...
? Voltage is not measured in degrees
 
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Mark carlyle said:
Also how bullet proof is it?

Is that a typical requirement for an automobile?
 
I could only find prices for wire on alibaba.com
Nitinol$120/kg
Titanium$15/kg
Aluminum$1.2/kg
Steel$0.45/kg
So, a rich man could make a concept car with novel materials/novel properties. NASA used it on a rover (https://newatlas.com/shape-memory-alloy-rover-wheel-nasa/52344/). But if your question is for production cars, it is far too expensive.
 
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@Mark carlyle. Welcome to PF.

A sudden impact can heat a material as it deforms. Slow movement does not heat it fast enough to raise the temperature. Nitinol cannot be expected to offer any protection from a high energy collision, or the impact of a ballistic object.

If you manufacture a vehicle from nitinol using normal press equipment, it would change shape back to flat sheets when first parked in the sun. You would need to injection mold every nitinol component from molten alloy.

ABS and memory plastics have been considered and used for many years in vehicle manufacture. They are much less expensive and easier to form than nitinol.
 
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