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Today I learned that cleaning a white hat can be done with bleach cleaner, but it’s important to rinse it before wearing it again. I also discovered that "oyster veneering," a woodworking technique from the late 1600s, is experiencing a minor revival despite its labor-intensive nature. Additionally, I learned that the factorial of 23 (23!) equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, which interestingly has 23 digits, a unique coincidence among factorials. I found out that medical specialists often spend less than 10 minutes with patients, and that watching TV can contribute to weight gain. Other insights included the fact that a kiss can transfer around 80 million microbes, and that bureaucracy can sometimes hinder employment opportunities. The discussion also touched on various trivia, such as the emotional sensitivity of barn owls and the complexities of gravitational lensing around black holes.
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Years ago I uploaded a video to Youtube that had Astronomy Domine as a soundtrack. Youtube deleted the video and gave me a terms of use violation strike so severe it was supposed to last eternally. (It wasn't copyright, that's different.) I guess they thought that I was promoting bondage porn, as in "domination." I just checked my channel though and there is no longer any mention of this sanction. Whatever.
 
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jack action said:
I know that!
That's what it was?
Not a huge Syd fan, he was a bit out there for me, I preferred post Syd Floyd.
 
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Today I learned that Sir Francis Drake got his start in the shipping of slaves. He was also a privateer and resupplied his expedition via plunder and looting.
 
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While reading about the Ig Nobel Price which, as I unsterstand, is a humorous/sarcastic version of the real deal, awarded for research that on the face of it sounds silly, but is legitimate, and sometimes even has real life practical repercussions, TIL:

That ostriches apparently can become sexually aroused - “frisky” - in the presence of humans:

IgNobel(2): Is that ostrich ogling me?.

Observers watching the ostriches discovered that the presence of humans stimulated courtship behaviour. The males “displayed,” for example (although this can also be a territorial behaviour). Many farmed ostriches mate in front of people: the female is stimulated by the presence of a person, and the male takes advantage of the situation.

Researcher Charlie Deeming of Lincoln, England, says:

“The paper had a sound scientific basis and a very practical outcome for ostrich farmers because it highlighted how humans could interfere with the normal behaviours of ostriches.”
 
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The other day I learned that a Seattle company is planning to mine Helium-3 on the moon.
https://www.interlune.space/

Apparently, at about $20,000 a gram for He-3, the financial numbers work.
PS, two of the founders of this company were also founding members of Blue Origin.
 
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Hornbein said:
Today I learned that Sir Francis Drake got his start in the shipping of slaves. He was also a privateer and resupplied his expedition via plunder and looting.
A lot of fortunes were made that way. It’s not something people like to talk about.
 
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… that “mass psychosis” is a thing and still happens fairly often. It even has its own Wiki page.

Go figure.

EDIT: In the middle ages up to tens of thousands of people would dance as if in a trance. Some would dance themselves into exhaustion, dehydration, broken limbs and death. Sometimes people who didn’t want to participate would be coerced using violence!

Talk about hysteria!
 
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Realized I am a genius. I completely understood the forum rules about posting personal theories the first time I read them, but evidently they are so fiendishly difficult to understand that they regularly stump the world's greatest independent researchers - people capable of mastering physics from just a few undergrad classes and YouTube videos.
 
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Remember these people are savant geniuses (genii?). You can’t compete. :)
 
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… that the fig wasp from the family
Agaonidae breed by incest. The males rape their sisters with a fallus almost longer than themselves.

(I just saw a documentary)

Wiki:
Prior to the final ripening of the fig, wingless males emerge from the galls they developed in. The males enter the galls of their winged sibling females, mate with them and die within the fruit. The newly hatched females then make their way out of the fruit continuing this cycle.

Nature is just beautiful.
 
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TIL that an Anglican Church is the same as a Church of England Church, because.. anglican... means... english...
yeah I don't know how I didn't realise earlier...
 
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I learned that
$$|e^{i\pi}|=|\pi^{ie}|=|i^{e\pi}|=1$$
 
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TIL about Ewin Howard Armstrong:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=122254768076205365&set=a.122172021374205365 said:
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On November 6, 1935, an engineer named Edwin Howard Armstrong stood before the Institute of Radio Engineers in New York. His paper carried a plain title: “A method of reducing radio disturbance through a frequency modulation system.”

What he unveiled was anything but plain. Armstrong had invented FM radio—a way to deliver sound without the crackle and static of AM. For the first time, voices and music could be heard with breathtaking clarity.
It should have been his triumph. Instead, it became his undoing.

Armstrong was no stranger to invention. He had already given the world the regenerative circuit and the superheterodyne receiver, technologies that made radio practical and reliable. But every breakthrough brought him into conflict with powerful corporations—AT&T, Westinghouse, and above all, RCA.

FM threatened RCA’s empire. They had poured fortunes into AM and weren’t about to see it eclipsed. Armstrong built his own FM network on frequencies between 42 and 49 MHz—a revolution in the making. But in 1945, after heavy lobbying, the FCC reassigned the FM band to 88–108 MHz, instantly making Armstrong’s system obsolete. Years of work were erased with the stroke of a pen.

Worse followed. FM stations were restricted to lower power, crippling their reach. RCA pushed television instead, while Armstrong was dragged through endless, ruinous lawsuits. His brilliance was buried under corporate pressure and legal battles.

On January 31, 1954, at 63 years old, Armstrong—exhausted and broken—penned a farewell letter to his wife, Marion. Then he stepped from the 13th floor of his New York apartment.

Yet every time we tune in to FM, we hear his legacy. The clear notes of a song, the clean tone of a human voice without static—that was Armstrong’s gift. He gave us silence between the noise.

History may have tried to silence him, but his invention speaks for him still.
 
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Recently I learned about the Standard Model Lagrangian.

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Demystifier said:
Which part was new to you? :oldbiggrin:
The part where we see the entire thing.

...and the 23rd term.
 
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TIL that there are at least 10 ways of saying "I can't" in Finnish:
1. En osaa - due to lack of knowledge or skill. Such as, I can't drive because I never learned how
2. En saa - due to lack of permission or not being allowed to. I can't drive because my license was revoked.
3 En ehdi - due to lack of time. I can't drive to the store because I don't have the time to.
4 En jaks - due to lack of energy or will. I can't drive because I'm too tired/just not up to it.
5. En voi - general. Useful when you want to be vague, or a specific reason isn't needed
6. En pysty- Tried but failed. I tried to learn how to drive, but I can't get the hang of it.
7. En kykene- same as the last, but maybe due to more personal rather than practical reasons. I've tried to talk to them about it, but I can't bring myself to do it.
8. En kehtaa - Due to social awkwardness or embarrassment. I can't go to the party alone, what would people think?
9. En kestä - due to it being emotionally draining. I can't talk about the car accident, it's too upsetting.
10. En malta - due to impatience. I can't wait until I'm able to drive.
 
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Janus said:
TIL that there are at least 10 ways of saying "I can't" in Finnish:
1. En osaa - due to lack of knowledge or skill. Such as, I can't drive because I never learned how
2. En saa - due to lack of permission or not being allowed to. I can't drive because my license was revoked.
3 En ehdi - due to lack of time. I can't drive to the store because I don't have the time to.
4 En jaks - due to lack of energy or will. I can't drive because I'm too tired/just not up to it.
5. En voi - general. Useful when you want to be vague, or a specific reason isn't needed
6. En pysty- Tried but failed. I tried to learn how to drive, but I can't get the hang of it.
7. En kykene- same as the last, but maybe due to more personal rather than practical reasons. I've tried to talk to them about it, but I can't bring myself to do it.
8. En kehtaa - Due to social awkwardness or embarrassment. I can't go to the party alone, what would people think?
9. En kestä - due to it being emotionally draining. I can't talk about the car accident, it's too upsetting.
10. En malta - due to impatience. I can't wait until I'm able to drive.
When I was a kid, my mother had an ever-growing list of excuses I had made to not do something, stuck to the refrigerator door. I should have explained to her, that is just the Finnish side of me coming out.
 
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TIL that scientists actually did this ...

KIRK: Spock, could the humpback's answer to this call be simulated?
SPOCK: The sounds, but not the language. We would be responding in gibberish.

... to simulate a conversation with an alien civilization. They basically said "hello" several times since that was all they knew in humpbackish. The result was a very frustrated and angry whale cow who finally swam away after she didn't receive an answer.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Recently I learned about the Standard Model Lagrangian.

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So now you just need to figure out S = ∫ L dt
 
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Janus said:
TIL that there are at least 10 ways of saying "I can't" in Finnish:
1. En osaa - due to lack of knowledge or skill. Such as, I can't drive because I never learned how
2. En saa - due to lack of permission or not being allowed to. I can't drive because my license was revoked.
3 En ehdi - due to lack of time. I can't drive to the store because I don't have the time to.
4 En jaks - due to lack of energy or will. I can't drive because I'm too tired/just not up to it.
5. En voi - general. Useful when you want to be vague, or a specific reason isn't needed
6. En pysty- Tried but failed. I tried to learn how to drive, but I can't get the hang of it.
7. En kykene- same as the last, but maybe due to more personal rather than practical reasons. I've tried to talk to them about it, but I can't bring myself to do it.
8. En kehtaa - Due to social awkwardness or embarrassment. I can't go to the party alone, what would people think?
9. En kestä - due to it being emotionally draining. I can't talk about the car accident, it's too upsetting.
10. En malta - due to impatience. I can't wait until I'm able to drive.
Addendum: For "you" "we" "they" "he", "she", "it" you replace the "en" as follows:
You(singular): et
You(plural/formal): ette
we : emme
they: eivat
he/she: ei
it: ei ( properly, Hän( he/she) or se(it) precedes the ei, however in everyday speech, unless it is not clear by context, se is used for both he/she and it. Similarly, they are two words for They, "he" for the personal and "ne" for the impersonal. ne is commonly used for both in everyday speech. Though, in a phrase like "They do not like pigs because they are fat: it is useful to be able to say "He eivät pidä sioista, koska ne ovat lihavia" to clarify that it is the pigs that are fat and not the people disliking them.
 
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Viewing in night-mode for the forum, the text below "Janus,..." signature is dark blue, upon a very dark gray background and is not readable. I am quoting that text here, attempting in a couple different colors just for any ease for some viewers.

A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring;
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again. -- Alexander Pope


A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring;
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again. -- Alexander Pope
 
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Janus said:
TIL that there are at least 10 ways of saying "I can't" in Finnish:
1. En osaa - due to lack of knowledge or skill. Such as, I can't drive because I never learned how
2. En saa - due to lack of permission or not being allowed to. I can't drive because my license was revoked.
3 En ehdi - due to lack of time. I can't drive to the store because I don't have the time to.
4 En jaks - due to lack of energy or will. I can't drive because I'm too tired/just not up to it.
5. En voi - general. Useful when you want to be vague, or a specific reason isn't needed
6. En pysty- Tried but failed. I tried to learn how to drive, but I can't get the hang of it.
7. En kykene- same as the last, but maybe due to more personal rather than practical reasons. I've tried to talk to them about it, but I can't bring myself to do it.
8. En kehtaa - Due to social awkwardness or embarrassment. I can't go to the party alone, what would people think?
9. En kestä - due to it being emotionally draining. I can't talk about the car accident, it's too upsetting.
10. En malta - due to impatience. I can't wait until I'm able to drive.
I kinda suspected all this Finnish language business was exaggerated but we have a Finnish exchange student whom I asked and she verified it. Crazy language!

Incidentally, another fun thing about Finland is that all women having their first baby is issued a box from the government containing all the most basic things like blankets, breast pump, etc....
 
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TIL that YAHOO does not originally stand for "You Always Have Other Options". Instead, in its origin, it was "Yet Another Hierarchically Organized Oracle".
wait, misread maybe? "Yet Another Hierarchically Officious Oracle".
 
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sbrothy said:
I kinda suspected all this Finnish language business was exaggerated but we have a Finnish exchange student whom I asked and she verified it. Crazy language!

Incidentally, another fun thing about Finland is that all women having their first baby is issued a box from the government containing all the most basic things like blankets, breast pump, etc....
In addition, traditionally, children are not named at birth but a few weeks later.
 
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Janus said:
In addition, traditionally, children are not named at birth but a few weeks later.
That country is just chock full of surprises, huh? :woot:
 
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Janus said:
In addition, traditionally, children are not named at birth but a few weeks later.
That was everywhere until infant mortality improved in the 20th century
 
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BWV said:
That was everywhere until infant mortality improved in the 20th century
Good point! Not difficult to see why. :frown:
 
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fresh_42 said:
Well, they must be doing something right.
https://ministeriumfuerglueck.de/blog/world-happiness-report-2024/
But Denmark comes in second!
Well if Das Ministerium für Glück und Wohlbefinden says so, it must be. One must follow orders

And one dares not contradict Das Oberanführer des Ministerium für Glück und Wohlbefinden, the happiest person in the world

Curious what Das Ministerium für Schádenfreude thinks is the least happy country?
 
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fresh_42 said:
Well, they must be doing something right.
https://ministeriumfuerglueck.de/blog/world-happiness-report-2024/
But Denmark comes in second!
I've always been more than skeptical of these surveys. To what parameters do they ascribe importance? If I tell an American that I pay 50-60% taxes back to the government of a pension I'm payed by them in the first place, I'm pretty they'll do a facepalm.

[SARCASM]
And we're constantly told that "hygge" (read: cosyness) is a unique Danish phenomenon. Yeah right, I'm sure no other people in the world enjoy hanging out with their family and friends. It probably a very unique Danish thing! :rolls eyes:
[/SARCASM]

But with all the US-, Finn-, (EDIT:) and Denmark-poking going around this is still funny (although possibly more feel-good):

https://satwcomic.com/
 
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Hah, 2 just as skeptical posts overtook mine!

EDIT: Ah well, 1. Although I'm sure @fresh_42 has his tongue in his cheek or a glint in his eye or whatever it's called.
 
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I call BS on Finland and Scandinavia - How can people in a crappy climate with crappy food be happy?

Italy I could believe
 
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BWV said:
Well if Das Ministerium für Glück und Wohlbefinden says so, it must be. One must follow orders

And one dares not contradict Das Oberanführer des Ministerium für Glück und Wohlbefinden, the happiest person in the world

Curious what Das Ministerium für Schádenfreude thinks is the least happy country?

Obersturmbannführer Gemütlichkeit.
 
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sbrothy said:
Hah, 2 just as skeptical posts overtook mine!

EDIT: Ah well, 1. Although I'm sure @fresh_42 has his tongue in his cheek or a glint in his eye or whatever it's called.
Yes and no. There is a very obvious reason why Scandinavian countries rate high. It has to do with the different priorities compared to, e.g., the USA. But this is a social science result that could be considered politics here. Already, the connotations of the adjective social are completely different.
 
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BWV said:
I call BS on Finland and Scandinavia - How can people in a crappy climate with crappy food be happy?

Italy I could believe
I would prefer Norway over Italy at any time. I start to feel comfortable below 18°C.
 
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BWV said:
I call BS on Finland and Scandinavia - How can people in a crappy climate with crappy food be happy?

Italy I could believe
Nah, the food has improved considerably in later years. We even have restaurants with Michelin stars now. Though I mean the everyday cooking though. I don't know if it's a global phenomenon but morning TV always makes dinner. Which I've never really understood.

EDIT: But granted, the climate is cruddy, half of the year. Those pesky 23,5 degrees tilt never cease to amaze me with their consequence.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I would prefer Norway over Italy at any time. I start to feel comfortable below 18°C.
Ok, so enjoy

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BWV said:
Ok, so enjoy

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Nah that must be Sweden. They eat anything up there. Even glass! (Swedes call ice "glass".) Look up "surströmmning". But beware!

A newly opened can of surströmming has one of the most putrid food smells in the world, even stronger than similarly fermented fish dishes such as the Korean hongeo-hoe, the Japanese kusaya or the Icelandic hákarl, making surströmming an acquired taste.
--- Wiki
 
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fresh_42 said:
Yes and no. There is a very obvious reason why Scandinavian countries rate high. It has to do with the different priorities compared to, e.g., the USA. But this is a social science result that could be considered politics here. Already, the connotations of the adjective social are completely different.
Yeah. I know. The socialist element makes for a happier population. Wealth is a little more distributed. It probably helps that the countries are so small. Demographically if not geographically.

EDIT: I was just poking fun. It *is* one of the lighter threads after all.
EDIT2: And yeah, we're veering into politics. I'll stop here.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Enjoy your red sausages.

The dye is made from the dried bodies of female cochineal bugs, which are harvested mainly in Peru and the Canary Islands. The bugs feed on prickly pear cacti, and after being collected, they are dried, crushed, and processed with an acidic alcohol solution to produce carminic acid, the primary coloring agent.2 It takes about 70,000 bugs to produce one pound of dye.
---- https://theheartysoul.com/13-foods-cochineal-extract/

I even think it's only the pregnant insects that contains the dye but don't take my word for it.
 
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Well, food is an argument. I like the dishes in central Europe, from Hungary to halfway Germany, and from Spain to also halfway Germany.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Well, food is an argument. I like the dishes in central Europe, from Hungary to halfway Germany, and from Spain to also halfway Germany.
Its all good, but think the Italian versions of Austrian food are better, like Cotoletta (or parm) vs Schnitzel or Veal Marsala vs Jagerschnitzel

At least they use chiles in Spain and Hungary
 
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Today I learned that prison escapes, whether successful or not, are not punishable in Germany. The law respects the natural law of the desire for freedom. This, of course, excludes the use of weapons, hostage-taking, and the like.
 
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BWV said:
That was everywhere until infant mortality improved in the 20th century
With Finland, I think it's more related to their cultural past. In their national epic, the Kalevala, there is a lot of mention of words/names having power. Wizards were able to do great feats just by knowing and using the right words. Names also tended to reflect something about the person more so than in other cultures. For example, many people today have the surname "Miller" because some ancestor had that as their profession and it was then just handed down from generation to generation after that. In Finland, this wasn't always the case. Not only could surnames change from generation to generation, but they could change within a person's lifetime. This occurred in my paternal line. My grandfather was born with a surname that reflected the name of their homestead. Prior to immigrating to the US, they sold the homestead, and upon doing so changed their surname to one that reflected a region, since they no longer owned that land. Likewise, waiting to name the child was so you could get some sense of what they were like, so you could choose a name that would suit them.
 
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