Top Physics Olympiad Books for 11th Graders: Recommendations and Tips

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks and study materials for 11th graders preparing for the Physics Olympiad. Participants share their experiences and suggest various resources covering mechanics, electromagnetism, thermodynamics, and modern physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions using Tipler/Mosca for Mechanics and Electromagnetism and seeks advice on additional materials.
  • Another participant recommends Young & Freedman's "University Physics" extended edition, claiming it covers all necessary topics for the Olympiad.
  • Questions arise about how to acquire the recommended books and the differences between the extended and standard editions of Young & Freedman.
  • Some participants note that Halliday/Resnick and Young/Freedman are similar, suggesting that a version with modern physics may provide a better contrast.
  • There is a suggestion that Tipler/Mosca may not provide sufficient depth for serious physics study, with a recommendation for Young & Freedman as a more suitable reference for future physics studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the suitability of different textbooks, with some agreeing on the value of Young & Freedman while others caution about the depth of Tipler/Mosca. No consensus is reached regarding the best resource for Olympiad preparation.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the availability of textbooks and the specific content differences between editions, but do not resolve which book is definitively superior for Olympiad preparation.

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I'm an 11th grader finishing Mechanics and Emag and I would like to ask you for your advice on textbooks and material I will need to cover to prepare for next years Olympiad. The book I used for Mech/Emag is by Tipler/Mosca. I have heard Halliday/Resnick is good but I don't know for which topics I could use it. I own Irodov's and have worked through most of the Kinematics and am hoping to start the next section soon.

Thank you in advanced for your time and thoughts
 
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Young & Freedman "University Physics" extended edition should cover everything you'll need. It covers all the mechanics, electrodynamics, thermodynamics, relativity and quantum physics which will be on the internation final, to my knowledge.
 
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espen180 said:
Young & Freedman "University Physics" extended edition should cover everything you'll need. It covers all the mechanics, electrodynamics, thermodynamics, relativity and quantum physics which will be on the internation final, to my knowledge.
How can I acquire this book? Also... what does the extended cover that the normal version does not?
 
1st2fall said:
How can I acquire this book?

If amazon.com doesn't work for you, it might help if you give us some idea of where in the world you are located.
 
1st2fall said:
Also... what does the extended cover that the normal version does not?

Modern physics, like relativity theory, quantum physics and particle physics.
 
Yes, a lot of textbooks at the level come in versions with and without modern physics. In fact, Tipler/Mosca is one of them, so 1st2fall must have the version without. If he likes what he has already, he might consider getting Volume 3 which contains only the modern physics chapters:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1429201347/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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Ah yes I forgot about Tipler but that does not go into nearly as much depth as it should for physicists. Tipler is more of your engineering/chemistry take on physics.

I would recommend the same as espen180, Young & Freedman University Physics with Modern Physics. Not only would it help you for the olympiad but if you wish to pursue a degree in physics then Young & Freedman will be your reference book for your first two years (freshman and sophomore).
 
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