How Does Torque Affect Motion in Physics Problems?

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The discussion focuses on the effects of torque in various physics problems involving rotational motion. Participants analyze scenarios including a bee landing on a pivoting rod, an Atwood machine with a massed wheel, and a sliding cylinder on an inclined plane. Key points include calculating torque, angular acceleration, and the relationship between torque and net force on masses. The conversation emphasizes the need for understanding forces, conservation of energy, and the conditions for rolling without slipping. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of applying torque concepts in dynamic systems.
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1. a bee of mass M alights (lands softly) on a thin horizontal rod of mass 3M and length l which pivots frictionlessly about its center.

a) what torque did it exert
b) angular acceleration of rod when bee lands.
c) maximum angular velocity when bee reaches LOWEST point?

try:
a) torque = r x F = lmg
b) torque = I a
lmg = a 1/12 (3m) l squared
a = 4g / l
c) use kinematics??

2. atwood machine with frictionless 1.00 kg wheel and radium 0.1 is suspended with two masses on a massless rope. mass A is 2.0 kg. B is 1.5 kg.
a) Relate torque to net force on each of the two masses b) acceleration? c) tensions on THREE?? ropes?

attempt:
a) torque = r x F. but what is r?
b) i know how to do it for massless wheel. but how to incorporate a massed wheel?
c) don't understand the question.

3. A cylinder of mass M and R SLIDES with initial velocity of V0 down an inclinded plane with angle theta. mu is kinetic friction. a) what is acceleration of the objects Center of MASS B) torque on cylinder C) acceleration of cylinder? d) what speed will the object stop sliding and starts to roll?

attempt:
torque = mu m g R = I a
wR= v, for rolling
sigma = w/2 t
how should i go thinking about this problem?
 
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killerinstinct said:
1. a bee of mass M alights (lands softly) on a thin horizontal rod of mass 3M and length l which pivots frictionlessly about its center.

a) what torque did it exert
b) angular acceleration of rod when bee lands.
c) maximum angular velocity when bee reaches LOWEST point?

try:
a) torque = r x F = lmg
b) torque = I a
lmg = a 1/12 (3m) l squared
a = 4g / l
c) use kinematics??
a) Where does the bee land? How far from the center?
c) Since the acceleration is not constant as the stick pivots, using kinematics will be too hard. Hint: Is anything conserved?

2. atwood machine with frictionless 1.00 kg wheel and radium 0.1 is suspended with two masses on a massless rope. mass A is 2.0 kg. B is 1.5 kg.
a) Relate torque to net force on each of the two masses b) acceleration? c) tensions on THREE?? ropes?

attempt:
a) torque = r x F. but what is r?
b) i know how to do it for massless wheel. but how to incorporate a massed wheel?
c) don't understand the question.
a) You are given the radius.
b) You need to analyze forces on the two masses and the wheel. Combine those three equations to solve for the acceleration.
c) The atwood machine is suspended from a rope (assume it's attached to the ceiling); that's the third rope.

3. A cylinder of mass M and R SLIDES with initial velocity of V0 down an inclinded plane with angle theta. mu is kinetic friction. a) what is acceleration of the objects Center of MASS B) torque on cylinder C) acceleration of cylinder? d) what speed will the object stop sliding and starts to roll?

attempt:
torque = mu m g R = I a
wR= v, for rolling
sigma = w/2 t
how should i go thinking about this problem?
a) What forces act on the cylinder?
b) What torque do those forces exert?
c) The cylinder's center slows down, while it's rotation speeds up. At some point, the condition for rolling without slipping will be met--find that point.
 
1a) lands at end of the rod.
1c) conservation of mechanical energy??
4mgh = 1/2 I w squared??
can you type that out LaTeX for me?

2) torque = rF
Force of tension - m1g = m1a1 = -m1a
Ft-M2g=m2a2 = m2a
force on wheel (i'm stuck here)
2c) do this problem as a system??

3) gravity acts on the cylinder.
ah... i still don't understand the physics part of this...
I'd like to see the process (steps in solving this). i think that would help.
can i see the latex for this and i will expain it back to you to show you that i understand.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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