Torque-Free Precession and Wobble direction

In summary, the conversation is discussing the direction and frequency of the wobble in torque-free precession of a plate. The question is whether the wobble direction can be either in the spin direction or retrograde to it, and if the wobble frequency can be inverse if the plate is tossed upward vs downward with the same spin direction. The person responds that it depends on the Euler top and suggests looking in textbooks for more information. There is then a clarification about Feynman's Wobbling Plate and the potential discrepancy between observed wobble rate and the theoretical equation. It is noted that the wobble to spin ratio is determined by the size and shape of the plate, but there may be limitations if the amplitude is too large. The
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Dueschnozzle
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In Torque-Free Precession of a plate, can the direction of the Wobble be either in the spin direction or retrograde to it?

For instance if you tossed the plate upward vs downward with the same spin direction. Would the wobble direction and frequency be inverse?
 
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Anyone?
 
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I am not sure that understood your question correctly, but anyway you are asking about the Euler top. Try textbooks
 
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wrobel said:
I am not sure that understood your question correctly, but anyway you are asking about the Euler top. Try textbooks
Hmm... I was asking more about Feynman's Wobbling Plate. Feynman said he observed the wobble at half the spin rate, but his equation says it's 2 wobbles per spin. Could both be true? From what I've read the wobble to spin ratio is determined by the size and shape, with the caveat as long as the amplitude is not too large. What happens when the amplitude is too large?
 
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Dueschnozzle said:
I was asking more about Feynman's Wobbling Plate.
yes, it is a special case of the Euler top
 
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wrobel said:
yes, it is a special case of the Euler top
So is this the difference between torque free precession = 2 wobble/1retrograde spin, vs roll or pure precession = 1wobble/1spin in same direction or zero spin?
 

1. What is torque-free precession?

Torque-free precession is a type of rotational motion where an object spins around an axis without any external torque acting upon it. This means that the object's angular momentum remains constant, and it rotates with a constant angular velocity.

2. What is the difference between torque-free precession and torque-induced precession?

The main difference between torque-free precession and torque-induced precession is the presence of an external torque. Torque-induced precession occurs when there is an external torque acting on an object, causing its axis of rotation to change. In contrast, torque-free precession occurs without any external torque and the axis of rotation remains constant.

3. How does torque-free precession occur in celestial bodies?

Torque-free precession occurs in celestial bodies, such as planets and moons, due to their asymmetrical shape. This causes a slight gravitational pull from other celestial bodies, resulting in a torque-free precession motion. Additionally, the Earth's rotation axis experiences torque-free precession due to the gravitational pull from the Moon and the Sun.

4. What is wobble direction in torque-free precession?

Wobble direction is the direction in which an object's axis of rotation precesses. In torque-free precession, the wobble direction remains constant since no external torque is acting on the object. This means that the object will continue to precess in the same direction unless acted upon by an external force.

5. How is torque-free precession important in gyroscopic motion?

Torque-free precession is an essential concept in gyroscopic motion, where objects with high rotational velocities demonstrate torque-free precession. This property allows gyroscopes to maintain a constant orientation and resist external forces, making them useful in various applications, such as navigation systems and space exploration.

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