Total Diff: Calculate d(x*y^4)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total differential of the expression d(x * y^4) given specific values for x and y, as well as their differentials. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on the application of the product rule in differentiation.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the product rule in differentiation, questioning the treatment of variables as constants during differentiation. There is an exploration of the reasoning behind the expression 4xy^3dy versus 4y^3dy.

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The conversation has progressed with some participants clarifying their understanding of the differentiation process, particularly regarding the role of constants. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the treatment of x during differentiation, which has been addressed through peer explanations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific requirements for the approach to the problem. There is a mention of the need to quote the question accurately and the implications of using differential coefficients for approximate calculations.

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Homework Statement


Calculate d (x * y ^ 4) if x = 2, y = 3, dx and dy = 0.02 = -0.03

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Total differential

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product rule:

d(xy^4) = d/dx (xy^4) dx + d/dy (xy^4) dy
d(xy^4) = y^4 dx + 4xy^3 dy

When x = 2, y = 3, dx = 0.02, y = −0.03
d(xy^4) = (3)^4 (0.02) + 4(2)(3)^3 (−0.03) = 1.62−6.48 = −4.86

Why is d/dy(xy^4)dy not = 4y^3dy but its 4xy^3dy ?
 
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What makes you think that it is 4y^3, what happened to x?
Since the derivation is with respect to y the x will behave like a constant. So it's 4xy^3.
 
Oh I thought you had to remove x . Now I understand thank you
 
The derivative of a constant, c, times a function of y, with respect to y. is c times the derivative: d(cf(y))= c (df/dy)dy. And when you are taking the derivative with respect to y, x is treated as a constant.
 
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Oh I thought you had to remove x . Now I understand thank you
I hope you do understand, not just you 'thought you had to' and now think 'you have to' do something different.

Have you quoted the question exactly? The exact answer to the question as quoted by you is
(2 + 0.02)×(3 - 0.03)4 - 2×3 = ...

Yours is an answer to a question like "use differential coefficients to calculate approximately...".
Compare the result.
 

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