Trajectory as a sufrace intersection

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The original poster attempts to express the trajectory \(\vec{r}=(t^2,2t,t^2)\) as an intersection of two surfaces, expressing uncertainty about how to approach the problem. They suggest that the trajectory resembles a parabola and seek guidance on the steps involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants explore the relationships between the variables, noting that \(x=t^2\) and \(y=2t\), and propose a potential equation \((\frac{y}{2})^2=x\). Others suggest that the trajectory may represent the intersection of a plane and a parabolic cylinder.
  • One participant raises a separate question about finding a point that satisfies the equations of two planes when determining the parametric form of a line, expressing difficulty in this process and seeking techniques for finding such points.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the trajectory and its representation as an intersection of surfaces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the variables, while the question about finding a point for the line of intersection remains open, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of homework assignments, which may impose specific requirements for expressing trajectories and lines in parametric form. The original poster's request for step-by-step guidance indicates a desire for clarity in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


Well, I must express this trajectory: [tex]\vec{r}=(t^2,2t,t^2)[/tex] as an intersection of two surfaces. I really don't know how to work this. It seems to be some kind of parabola, but I'd really like to see some step by step for solving this.

Bye, and thanks off course.
 
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Telemachus said:

Homework Statement


Well, I must express this trajectory: [tex]\vec{r}=(t^2,2t,t^2)[/tex] as an intersection of two surfaces. I really don't know how to work this. It seems to be some kind of parabola, but I'd really like to see some step by step for solving this.

Bye, and thanks off course.

Hint: How are [itex]x(t)[/itex] and [itex]y(t)[/itex] related? How are [itex]z(t)[/itex] and [itex]y(t)[/itex] related?
 
Mmm let's see. I got that [tex]x=t^2[/tex], [tex]y=2t[/tex], then [tex](\frac{y}{2})^2=x[/tex]?
And [tex]z=x[/tex]

Is that right? so its the intersection between the plane [tex]z=x[/tex] and the parabolic cylinder...?

I got one more question. I have another exercise where it asks me to get the parametric form for a line given as the intersection of two planes. So, to define the parametric form I need one point that satisfies the equation for the two planes, that is a point over the line. And I find the work of finding such a point really tedious. Is there any technique to find a point that satisfies two equations with three variables? I mean, I'm not much intuitive on that sense, I've been looking for a single point that satisfies the equations for two planes for many minutes and couldn't get it. Is there any procedure to follow?

Bye, and thank you gabba.
 
I see no reason to find a specific point if you are looking for the equation of the line itself. If you are given two planes, then you are given two linear equations:
Ax+ By+ Cz= D and Px+ Qy+ Rz= S. You can solve those two equations for two of the variables in terms of the other one. Use that one as parameter.

For example, if the planes are given by 2x- y+ z= 4 and 3x+ y- 2z= 3, then adding the two equations eliminates y and leaves 5x- z= 4. We can solve that for z in terms of x: z= 5x- 4.

Putting that into the first equation, 2x- y+ z= 2x- y+ 5x- 4= 4 so that y= 8- 5x.

Take x as parameter: x= t, y= 8- 5t, z= 5t- 4 are the parametric equations for the line of intersection.
 

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