Transfer Function: U(s) to Y(s): 2 Plants, D(s) Disturbance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transfer function relating an input U(s) to an output Y(s) in a system with two plants, G1(s) and G2(s), and a disturbance input D(s). Participants are exploring how to derive the overall transfer function Y(s)/U(s) and the implications of moving the disturbance in the system's block diagram.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the relationship can be expressed as Y(s) = U(s)G1(s)G2(s) + G2(s)D(s).
  • Another participant suggests that moving D(s) to the left results in D(s)/G1(s) being in parallel with G1(s) and G2(s).
  • A later reply seeks clarification on whether the disturbance D(s) should be shifted in the block diagram or if it pertains to rearranging the equation Y(s) - G2(s)D(s) = U(s)G1(s)G2(s).
  • Further clarification is requested regarding the interpretation of shifting the disturbance in the context of the block diagram.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants are engaged in a discussion with differing interpretations of how to manipulate the disturbance D(s) in relation to the plants G1(s) and G2(s). There is no consensus on the correct approach to derive the overall transfer function or the implications of the disturbance's position.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved assumptions about the system's configuration and the mathematical steps required to derive the transfer function. The implications of moving D(s) in the block diagram are also not fully clarified.

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U(s) is my input, Y(s) is the output. I have two plants, G1(s) and G2(s). Between these two plants, i have a disturbance input, D(s).

Am i right to say Y(s) = U(s)G1(s)G2(s) + G2(s)D(s)?

If that is the case, how can i get the overall transfer function Y(s)/U(s)? Please advise. Thank you.
 
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I believe if you move D(s) to the left, you will now have D(s)/G1(s) in parallel with G1(s) and G2(s).
 
rock.freak667 said:
I believe if you move D(s) to the left, you will now have D(s)/G1(s) in parallel with G1(s) and G2(s).

Hi rock.freak667,

sorry i don't get you. do you mean shift the disturbance D(s) to the left of G1(s) as in in the block diagram?

or do you mean the equation Y(s) - G2(s)D(s) = U(s)G1(s)G2(s)?

please advise. thank you.
 
khedira said:
Hi rock.freak667,

sorry i don't get you. do you mean shift the disturbance D(s) to the left of G1(s) as in in the block diagram?.

Sorry I was not clearer, I meant shift the disturbance to the left of G1(s) in the block diagram.
 

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