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Homework Statement
As shown below.
Relevant Equations
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Transformed circuit:
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Using KVL,

Now, I am unsure about the current to use KVL in this case.
As far as equation goes:
Vi(s) =(I1*R)+(I3*R)+Vc(s), where Vc(s) = V0(s)/u as shown in the circuit.
How am I supposed to find the current I1 and I3 for the two resistors in this case?
Thanks
 

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jisbon said:
Homework Statement:: As shown below.
Relevant Equations:: -

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Transformed circuit:
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Using KVL,

Now, I am unsure about the current to use KVL in this case.
As far as equation goes:
Vi(s) =(I1*R)+(I3*R)+Vc(s), where Vc(s) = V0(s)/u as shown in the circuit.
How am I supposed to find the current I1 and I3 for the two resistors in this case?
Thanks
Would you be able to send a more clear picture of the circuit? Or atleast answer these questions about the problem statement so that I can get a better idea:

  • Is that the greek letter "μ" next to the voltage-controlled voltage source (Please see screenshot below with red circle)? Are we given a value for μ or any other values?
  • Do we have to put the transfer function in terms of Vc and Vi? Or do we have to put everything in terms of R , s and C? This will make a difference when we are re-arranging the terms in the system of equations to solve for Vo/Vi.
  • Do we have any other voltage or current values across any other component in the circuit? Do we assume any voltage or current values across any other components in the circuit?
  • Where is the ground symbol in the circuit? That will make a huge difference if you were to use the node-voltage method to solve for the Vo/Vi relationship.

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Once you confirm all the information and the drawing from the problem statement, I'll be able to have a proper attempt at this problem.
So far, this is my drawing:

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Are you okay with KCL or KVL? The approach here is you'll want to solve for ##v_c##. Once you get that, then you know that ##v_o## is dependent on it and you'll be done.

KVL you can do this with two current loops. Some people might call it a mesh analysis (they're really the same). You'll have to bookkeep what sinks and sources and the total voltage of that loop has to sum to zero.

I don't like bookkeeping and so, even though it's little bit more work, I'll opt for KCL here. Here's the next step I would take.

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It doesn't matter which direction you draw the arrows if you draw them all in or all out. This is because if you multiple both sides by ##-1## this flips the arrow, but ##(-1)(0)## is still ##0##. I drew them all inwards in this case. Do whatever makes you feel more comfortable. I simply apply Ohm's law to each arrow so you can see on the left side the voltage across ##R## is ##v_i - v_x## and Ohm's law says the current through that resistor is ##v/R##. I repeated it for each current for the entire equation.

Now you're working a very basic algebra problem and you have two unknowns: ##v_x## which I made up and ##v_c##. You can come up with an equation for ##v_x## that is dependent on ##v_c##.

Hint: Do Ohm's law across the resistor and the capacitor for ##v_x##. In the equation above I only did it across the resistor, but the current going through ##R## and ##C## is the same.

Once you've eliminated ##v_x## so that the only unknown is ##v_c##, then you can isolate ##v_c## for its solution. Just as said earlier: If you know ##v_c##, then you know ##v_o##.
 
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Thanks for all the replies :)
I do actually solved it after redrawing the circuit more clearly :)
 
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