Transformation rule for product of 3rd, 2nd order tensors

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The discussion focuses on deriving a transformation rule for a 3rd-order tensor Zijk, ensuring the relation ui = ZijkAjk remains valid after a coordinate rotation. The transformation rule is established as Z'ijk = CilCjmCknZlmn, while the transformation for 2nd-order tensors is A'jk = CjmCknAmn. A participant expresses confusion regarding the application of these rules, particularly in the context of dummy variables, which is clarified by another participant emphasizing the importance of using distinct dummy variables to avoid confusion.

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1. Problem statement:

Assume that u is a vector and A is a 2nd-order tensor. Derive a transformation rule for a 3rd order tensor Zijk such that the relation ui = ZijkAjk remains valid after a coordinate rotation.

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Transformation rule for 3rd order tensors: Z'ijk = CilCjmCknZlmn. Transformation rule of 2nd order tensors: A'jk = CjmCknAmn. Transformation rule for 1st order tensors: u'i = Cilul.3. My attempt:

To begin with, I am confused as to the wording of this question. I assume that it means: come up with an expression for Z'ijk such that the relation u'i = Z'ijkA'jk holds, but if I am wrong, I would appreciate an explanation of what we are trying to do! If I am correct, then I don't see why the normal transformation rule for third order tensors does not work here. I have:

Z'ijkA'jk = CilCjmCknZlmnCjmCknAmn = CilZlmnAmn = u'i

I think I've done something very wrong here, but I am unfamiliar with tensors and I don't know how to go about fixing it. Help would be much appreciated, thank you!
 
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Not much wrong with your work. I do have a quibble with your derivation. When writing A'(j,k)= C(j.m)C(k,n)A(m,n) you should use different dummy variables to prevent confusion with the dummy variables in the expression for Z. Thus A'(j,k)= C(j.p)C(k,q)A(p,q) is better. Then you can collapse the C matrices using the relation C(j,p)C(j,m) = delta(p.m). You get to the same answer.
 
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davidmoore63@y said:
Not much wrong with your work. I do have a quibble with your derivation. When writing A'(j,k)= C(j.m)C(k,n)A(m,n) you should use different dummy variables to prevent confusion with the dummy variables in the expression for Z. Thus A'(j,k)= C(j.p)C(k,q)A(p,q) is better. Then you can collapse the C matrices using the relation C(j,p)C(j,m) = delta(p.m). You get to the same answer.
Ah, I see what you mean. Thanks for the input! The new notation helps.
 

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