Transformer output voltage Vs turns ratio: HELP

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with a transformer that has a specified turns ratio of 1:16 and is experiencing unexpectedly low output voltage at the secondary side when powered. Participants explore various factors affecting transformer performance, including design specifications, core material, and testing conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports a low secondary voltage, with a no-load voltage of 40V, despite a 12V input and a turns ratio of 1:16.
  • Another participant suggests that overheating in the primary could indicate a shorted turn and questions the primary current when the secondary is open-circuited.
  • Concerns are raised about the core gap size, with one participant noting it is very small (approximately .005"-.01").
  • Participants inquire about the use of film insulated wire, core material, insulation over the core, and whether the transformer is tested at the designed frequency.
  • One participant asks if the primary winding is center-tapped, which could affect performance.
  • Another participant mentions that if the primary gets hot without a load, it may indicate insufficient inductance or an issue with the turns ratio.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the transformer's performance, but no consensus is reached on the specific cause of the low secondary voltage. Multiple competing views and suggestions remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the issue of the transformer's performance, and there are unresolved questions about the design specifications and testing conditions that may impact the results.

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I just built a transformer to the specs of the original.

The transformer has a turns ratio of 1:16. Input to primary is 12V.
The problem I am having is a very low voltage at the secondary side. The no load voltage was the highest (40V) that I have got out of it so far.

The primary coil has a 200 Ohm resistor in series. I removed that to get more current to the primary but got the same results?

Anyone here have any suggestions as to why I'm not getting the full secondary voltage?
 
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If it gets hot then you could have a shorted turn.
How much current does the primary take when the secondary is open circuited.
Is it possible that you have an enormous gap in the core?
How does it perform with the primary and secondary reversed (using a low voltage source to feed the secondary).

Why is there a 200 Ohm resistor in series with the primary?
 
Noe of the coils get hot, except the primary when I remove the resistor, then it gets too hot.

Primary current with secondary open is 45mA.
There is a very small gap in the core (probably about .005"-.01")
With the primary and secondary reversed (there are 3 secondary coils so I only connected to one) turns ratio is 5.4:1. I applied 12V to the secondary and with the primary open I get 400mV. When I short circuit the primary I get .5mA.
 
Are you using film insulated wire?
Try using a signal generator or function generator. Vary the frequency and see what you get.
Are you using the same core material as the original?
Is there insulation over the core?
Are you testing the transformer at the frequency the transformer was designed for?
 
hobbs125 said:
I just built a transformer to the specs of the original.
Is the primary a centre-tapped winding?
 
hobbs125 said:
Noe of the coils get hot, except the primary when I remove the resistor, then it gets too hot.

Primary current with secondary open is 45mA.
There is a very small gap in the core (probably about .005"-.01")
With the primary and secondary reversed (there are 3 secondary coils so I only connected to one) turns ratio is 5.4:1. I applied 12V to the secondary and with the primary open I get 400mV. When I short circuit the primary I get .5mA.

If the primary gets hot without a shorted turn or a secondary load, itself inductance is not high enough. Where did you get the design from? It needs sufficient turns on it; the turns ratio is another issue.
 

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