Transforming Complex Solutions into Polar Form

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The discussion revolves around transforming the complex solution x(t) = Ge^(iwt) into polar form, specifically into the expression x(t) = Dcos(wt - δ), where D and δ are real functions of w. Participants are exploring the implications of complex numbers in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of G into polar form and the application of Euler's formula. There is confusion regarding the nature of x(t) being complex and whether only the real part should be considered. Some participants question the validity of the transformation and the assumptions made about the realness of x(t).

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest focusing on the real part of x(t) while others are clarifying the steps involved in the transformation. There is no explicit consensus on how to proceed, but multiple lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working from a test prep sheet provided by the professor, which may impose specific constraints or assumptions that are under discussion. The nature of complex solutions and their real counterparts is a central theme.

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Homework Statement



Show that the solution x(t) = Ge^(iwt), where G is in general complex, can be written in the form x(t) = Dcos(wt - [tex]\delta[/tex]).

D(w) and [tex]\delta[/tex](w) are real functions of w.

Homework Equations



z = Ae^(i[tex]\phi[/tex])

The Attempt at a Solution



So I know I should start by writing G in polar form. I am confused though as to how to go to polar form with just the G. Is it simply just Ge^(i[tex]\phi[/tex]). Then, I could use Euler's formula to write:

Ge^(i[tex]\phi[/tex]) = Gcos([tex]\phi[/tex]) + iGsin([tex]\phi[/tex]).

I am not sure where this gets me. Any help on where to go from here or if this is even correct would be much appreciated.
 
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hi w3390! :smile:

(have a delta: δ and a rho: ρ and a phi: φ and an omega: ω :wink:)
w3390 said:

Homework Statement



Show that the solution x(t) = Ge^(iwt), where G is in general complex, can be written in the form x(t) = Dcos(wt - [tex]\delta[/tex]).

D(w) and [tex]\delta[/tex](w) are real functions of w.

but that's obviously not true …

the RHS is real, but x isn't :confused:
 
Why isn't x real?
 
it's the product of two complex numbers … it's very unlikely to be real
 
I am confused then because my question was from a test prep sheet from my professor. Should I perhaps only consider the real part of x(t)?
 
dunno :redface:

maybe :smile:
 
What I'm saying is:

x(t) = Ge^(i[tex]\phi[/tex])

x(t) = G[cos([tex]\omega[/tex]t - [tex]\delta[/tex]) + i*sin([tex]\omega[/tex]t - [tex]\delta[/tex])

Then taking only the real part of this:

x(t) = Gcos([tex]\omega[/tex]t - [tex]\delta[/tex]).

From here, I can compare to the given solution of x(t) = Dcos([tex]\omega[/tex]t - [tex]\delta[/tex]) and say that G = D.

Does this make sense?
 
Hi w3390! :smile:

(what happened to that δ φ and ω i gave you? :confused:)

I don't understand where your second line came from …

w3390 said:
x(t) = G[cos([tex]\omega[/tex]t - [tex]\delta[/tex]) + i*sin([tex]\omega[/tex]t - [tex]\delta[/tex])
 
Write [itex]G= re^{i\theta}[/itex]. Then [itex]Ge^{i\omega t}= r e^{i(\omega t+ \theta)}= r (cos(\omega t+ \theta)+ i sin(\omega t+ \theta)[/itex].
 

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