Transient response of RL Circuit

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The discussion revolves around the transient response of an RL circuit, specifically focusing on the expression for current over time, the behavior of inductors in the circuit, and the implications of a controlled source on the circuit's dynamics. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and the impact of circuit components on the transient response.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the initial current is 3 amps and questions the behavior of the inductor after a long time, wondering if it acts as a short circuit.
  • Another participant suggests that the controlled source complicates the solution, indicating it alters the energy in the circuit over time and does not behave like a typical passive RL circuit.
  • A participant proposes writing the differential equation based on Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and mentions using the Laplace transform as a method to solve the problem.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the configuration of the controlled current source (8i_x) in relation to the current (i_x), with one stating it is impossible for them to be in series.
  • Others argue that while the configuration may not be desirable, it is not impossible to solve, suggesting that it leads to a lack of steady state as time approaches infinity.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the nature of the controlled source, with one participant noting it is a controlled voltage source, which resolves the apparent contradiction in the circuit analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the controlled source and its implications for the circuit. There is no consensus on the configuration of the sources or the resulting steady state behavior of the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential confusion regarding the definitions and roles of the circuit components, particularly the controlled source, and its impact on the transient response. The discussion includes unresolved aspects of the mathematical formulation and circuit behavior over time.

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Homework Statement


Find the expression of the current "i" by terms of time.
The answer is 3e^(20t) Amps

Homework Equations



i(t)=I_final+(I_initial-I_final)*e^(-t/τ)

The Attempt at a Solution


I have found the initial current as 3 amps. However, after the switch had been changed for too long, I m not sure about the way how the inductor behaves. Will it be a short circuit? If so, there is some problem about the loop on the right, like 8ix-6ix=0
Can the dependent source behave like that? Also I have problem about finding the time constant, I find 1/τ as 60.

Thanks for your help!
 

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The controlled source is going to throw a monkey wrench into a simplistic solution involving time constants based upon the passive components alone. The controlled source will alter the energy available in the circuit over time, so it won't behave like a typical passive RL circuit.

I suggest writing the differential equation for the loop based on KVL. You know the initial value of the current. (A very easy way is to us the Laplace domain/transform method).

I can confirm that the given answer is correct.
 
Hard to read your image, but it looks like the controlled current source is 8 i_x and it's in series with i_x. That unfortunately is impossible.
 
rude man said:
Hard to read your image, but it looks like the controlled current source is 8 i_x and it's in series with i_x. That unfortunately is impossible.

Not desirable perhaps, but not impossible to solve. It means that there will be no steady state for as t → ∞. Sort of analogous to an amplifier with positive feedback. Take look at the proposed solution, and in particular, the sign of the exponent.
 
gneill said:
Not desirable perhaps, but not impossible to solve. It means that there will be no steady state for as t → ∞. Sort of analogous to an amplifier with positive feedback. Take look at the proposed solution, and in particular, the sign of the exponent.

Are you confirming that the 8i_x source is in series with i_x? 'Cause if you are, that is impossible.
 
rude man said:
Are you confirming that the 8i_x source is in series with i_x? 'Cause if you are, that is impossible.

I am confirming that the given solution can be derived from the circuit as shown.

EDIT: It just occurred to me that perhaps there is some confusion about the 8ix controlled source being in series with the ix current. That source is a controlled VOLTAGE source, so there is no contradiction in the math.
 
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