Translations math problem (gr 12 level)

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The problem involves a transformation of the function y=f(x) to the form -2y-2=f(0.5x-3), with a specific point (-3, -2) on the original function. Participants are tasked with determining which point will be on the transformed function.

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  • Participants discuss the transformations applied to the function and how to correctly interpret the point (-3, -2) in relation to the transformation. There is an exploration of the algebraic manipulations and graphical interpretations of the transformations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the transformations and attempted to clarify the relationship between the original and transformed functions. There is a mix of algebraic and graphical approaches being considered, with some participants expressing confusion about the transformations and their implications.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of function transformations, including horizontal and vertical shifts, reflections, and scaling. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in applying the transformations correctly, as well as the limitations of the information provided about the function f.

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Homework Statement


If the function y=f(x) is transformed to -2y-2=f(0.5x-3), and the point (-3, -2) is on f(x), which of the following will be on the new function -2y-2=f(0.5x-3)?


Homework Equations


[tex]y = {af}\left[b(x-h)\right] + k[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


When i attempted this question, i got (-9, -1) which is wrong, i don't know the answer still. I am still unsure really how to show my work so i pretty much did the horizontal translations and scale factors to x, and vertical translations and scale factors to y.

after rewriting the function, i have [itex]y = -\frac{1}{2}(0.5x-3) + 2[/itex]

in an attempt to show work i showed the transformations.

[itex]x \rightarrow 0.5x[/itex]
[itex]x \rightarrow x - 3[/itex]
[itex]y \rightarrow 2y[/itex]
[itex]y \rightarrow -y{}\textit{(reflection on x axis)}[/itex]
[itex]y \rightarrow y - 2[/itex]

I then simply tried to run those transformations on the x and y values seperatly.
(-3, -2)

x = -3(2) -3 = -9
y = -((-1/2)(-2)) + 2 = 1?? I am lost,

i don't really know how to show my owkrk for this question, nor how to do it properly.
any help would be appreciated.
 
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This was also a multiple choice question. Possible answers were
(-9, -1)
(1, 0)
(0, 0)
(-12, 2)
 
Senjai said:

Homework Statement


If the function y=f(x) is transformed to -2y-2=f(0.5x-3), and the point (-3, -2) is on f(x), which of the following will be on the new function -2y-2=f(0.5x-3)?
Saying that "(-3, -2) is on f(x)" means that f(-3)= -2. In order that we be able to use that, without any other knowledge of f, we need to be able to apply f to -3 so would have to have 0.5x- 3= -3 so 0.5x= 0 or x= 0. In that case, we have -2y- 2= f(-3)= -2 so -2y= 0 and y= 0. The point is (0, 0).
 
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wow, i feel really really dumb, makes sense putting it that way.. looked at it on a graph, was able to do it that way, algebraically i wasn't able to see it like that.. so its easy, transformation applied to x = previous x value? i don't understand why you can't sub -3 in for x and use that to transform it though, sorry for being all dumb about it...

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Senjai said:
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after rewriting the function, i have [itex]y = -\frac{1}{2}(0.5x-3) + 2[/itex]
That's not right. What happened to the f? If the function [tex]y = f(x)[/tex] is transformed to [tex]{-}2y{-}2 = f(0.5x{-}3)[/tex], then
[tex]y = {-}\frac{1}{2}[f(0.5x{-}3)] {-} 1[/tex].

But you don't need to do this at all; HallsofIvy's solution is the way to go.


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