Traveling 10 Lightyears at 75% Speed - Time & Average Speed

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The discussion centers on the implications of traveling 10 light-years at 75% the speed of light, utilizing the Lorentz factor for calculations. The Lorentz factor is approximately 1.5, leading to a perceived distance of 6.67 light-years and a travel time of 8.9 years from the spaceship's perspective. The concept of "Proper Speed" is introduced, indicating that while the spaceship experiences a time dilation effect, it does not appear to travel faster than light from the traveler's viewpoint. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding different reference frames in special relativity.

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  • #31
thougtht id share this link i found with all the posts disagreeing with the ,appearance of ftl travel


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation


thanks for the help
 
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  • #32
shamphys
I assume you mean the statement in wiki:
" ... a constant 1 g acceleration would permit humans to travel as far as light has been able to travel since the big bang (some 13.7 billion light years) in one human lifetime. "
Would "appear" as a FTL speed or "change in location" - just remember that in SR the traveler still does not see a local FTL event at any time - and you will begin to understand what Einstein was saying with SR.
 
  • #33
RandallB said:
shamphys
I assume you mean the statement in wiki:
" ... a constant 1 g acceleration would permit humans to travel as far as light has been able to travel since the big bang (some 13.7 billion light years) in one human lifetime. "
Would "appear" as a FTL speed or "change in location" - just remember that in SR the traveler still does not see a local FTL event at any time - and you will begin to understand what Einstein was saying with SR.


i mean that if you could travel at very close to the speed of light(ignoring the acceleration problem for the moment another thread for another day)that you could travel very great distances within a heartbeat and this would give you the "appearance" that you traveled faster than light

can i say again i don't believe you can travel at the speed light or faster


also any chance of answer for my question about how long it takes for a pulse of light to travel 10 lyrs ,from the pulse of lights point of view
 
  • #34
shamphys said:
also any chance of answer for my question about how long it takes for a pulse of light to travel 10 lyrs ,from the pulse of lights point of view
In relativity when physicists talk about an object's "point of view" they mean what's happening in the object's inertial rest frame, but light doesn't have an inertial rest frame of its own. Inertial frames are supposed to be defined by networks of rulers and synchronized clocks at rest in that frame, but it's impossible for rulers and clocks to be accelerated to the speed of light, and even if you consider the limit as they approach the speed of light, the rulers' length would approach zero due to Lorentz contraction and the clocks would approach being completely frozen due to time dilation, so you couldn't construct a sensible coordinate system out of them. One more reason that light can't have its own inertial rest frame is that one of the fundamental postulates of relativity is that the laws of physics should be the same in every inertial frame, but light can never be at rest in the rest frame of any object moving slower than light, so giving light its own rest frame would violate this postulate.
 

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