Triangle Inequality <= Sign Explained

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The discussion revolves around the introduction of the less than or equal to (<=) sign in the context of the triangle inequality. Participants are examining the implications of this notation in mathematical expressions involving absolute values and squares.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the necessity of the <= sign, questioning whether it is needed when considering specific values of "a" and "b". Some provide examples to illustrate their points, while others seek clarification on the mathematical notation used.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants presenting differing interpretations of the mathematical expressions. Some express confusion over the notation, while others offer insights into their understanding of the triangle inequality and its implications.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific source (a book by Spivak) that uses similar notation, which may contribute to the participants' varying interpretations. The discussion also highlights the potential for misunderstanding when dealing with mathematical expressions involving absolute values.

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http://math.ucsd.edu/~wgarner/math4c/derivations/other/triangleinequal_files/eq0007S.gif

Why did they introduce the <= sign?

I cannot think of any numbers that would violote the =. So why introduce the <?
 
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Because if "a" or "b" (not both) is negative, then the answer would be less than the formula with the absolute value of "a" or "b".
 
bucher said:
Because if "a" or "b" (not both) is negative, then the answer would be less than the formula with the absolute value of "a" or "b".

That's not true, plugin a=-3 and b=2. In fact, try any set of numbers and you will see.
 
Okay, I will: |-3+2|^2= 1^2= 1. |-3|+ |2|= 3+2= 5 and 5^2= 25. 1 is definitely less than 25!

Now, what do YOU get? (Or did you do |a+b|2 and (a+b)2 rather than |a+b|2 and (|a|+ |b|)^2?)
 
I think (or at least I hope) that the OP is referring to the last line (not the one before). The last one should start with a =.
 
That is not my interpretation of that particular way of writing mathematics.

If it were |a+b|^2= (a+ b)(a+ b)= a^2+ 2ab+ b^2\le |a|^2+ 2|a||b|+ |b|^2= (|a|+ |b|)^2, in one line, then, yes, the last two are equal. But my understanding of
\begin{array}{cc}|a+ b|^2&amp;= (a+b)(a+b)\\ &amp;= a^2+ 2ab+ b^2\\ &amp;\le |a|^2+ 2|a||b|+ |b|^2 \\ &amp;\le (|a|+ |b|)^2
is that the left side, here |a+ b|^2, is "copied" down the left. That is, it is
\begin{array}{cc}|a+ b|^2&amp;= (a+b)(a+b)\\|a+ b|^2&amp;= a^2+ 2ab+ b^2\\|a+ b|^2&amp;\le |a|^2+ 2|a||b|+ |b|^2 \\|a+ b|^2&amp;\le (|a|+ |b|)^2
 
HallsofIvy said:
That is not my interpretation of that particular way of writing mathematics.

Your interpretation is correct (but I know you don't need me to tell you that). Most authors write this way, and it even saves ink!
 
Fredrik said:
I think (or at least I hope) that the OP is referring to the last line (not the one before). The last one should start with a =.

The last one should be with <=. I understand why it is there; I was just pissed because I would have never thought to put the <= after putting up absolute values around 2ab.

Thanks for the help.

HallsOfIvy, I do like your interpretation of the math better, more lucid. The GIF I posted is hotlinked from some website I found. Unfortunately, the book I got this problem (spivak) from uses the same notation as the GIF image.
 

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