Trick for Solving Double Integral with e^x/(x+1) Function

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The discussion revolves around solving a double integral involving the function e^x/(x+1) over a specified region. Participants express uncertainty about the existence of an elementary antiderivative for the integrand and explore various strategies for tackling the integral.

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  • Participants suggest reversing the order of integration as a potential strategy, while others question the effectiveness of this approach. There are discussions about using integration by parts, with some participants expressing confusion about the choice of u and dv. The importance of carefully determining the new limits of integration when changing the order is also highlighted.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various strategies being proposed and explored. Some participants have offered guidance on sketching the region of integration to aid in determining limits, while others continue to question the effectiveness of the suggested methods.

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There is mention of formatting issues in the original problem statement, such as the omission of dx and dy, which may affect clarity. Participants also note the need for caution when changing the order of integration due to the alteration of limits.

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Perhaps someone can explain how to do, or a trick to solve this integral:

[tex]\int_{0}^{3}\int_{\sqrt{y+1}}^{2} \frac{e^x}{x+1}[/tex] dx dy

i don't know if [tex]\frac{e^x}{x+1}[/tex] has an elementary antideriv. so there should be some trick to solving this i guess...
 
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You have to use '_' and '^' to set the limits on an integral. e.g.

\int_{lower}^{upper}

And you forgot to put your `dx's and `dy's in the problem.

The first thing I think of when I'm stumped on a double integral is to reverse the order of integration to see if that helps. Have you tried that?
 
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right there it is correctly formatted. but by reversing the order, you will have a y in the final answer, not like it helps to reverse in this case anyways
 
Well, when you reverse the order, the limits change, right? You won't know if it helps until you try it!
 
use integration by parts.
 
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what do you choose for u and dv? i cannot simplify it?
 
try using u = x+l and dv=e^xdx then du=dx and v=e^x
do you know the formula for integration by parts?
 
Hurkyl said:
Well, when you reverse the order, the limits change, right? You won't know if it helps until you try it!

Have you, thenewbosco, followed this advice yet?
 
if you try this you get 3*e^x/(x+1) which doesn't really help any?
 
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When you change the order of integration, you have to be careful with the limits. It might help if you sketch the region you are integrating over. What is the integral after you change the order?
 
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buzzmath said:
try using u = x+l and dv=e^xdx then du=dx and v=e^x
do you know the formula for integration by parts?

Since the problem is
[tex]\int \frac{e^x dx}{x+1}[/tex]
rather than
[tex]\int (x+1)e^x dx[/tex]
that doesn't help at all.


Changing the order of integration is the way to go.

Thenewbosco, have you sketched the area over which you are integrating? That's the best way to find the new limits of integration. Once you've done that you can use buzzmath's suggestion of integration by parts but with u= x-1, not x+1!
 

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