Trig Identity Problem: Finding Theta When Tan(theta) = Cos(theta)

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The problem involves finding the angle theta where tan(theta) equals cos(theta) within the interval -pi to pi. The relevant equations include the definitions of tangent and the Pythagorean identity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using trigonometric identities to manipulate the equation, with some attempting to eliminate functions and rearrange terms. Questions arise about which identity to apply first and whether the approach taken is correct.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants sharing their attempts and results. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of identities and the symmetry of the sine function, but no consensus has been reached on a final solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to find multiple solutions within the specified interval and express concerns about potential mathematical errors when dealing with certain values of sine.

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Homework Statement


the problem is:
tan(theta) = cos(theta)
find theta: -pi < theta < pi

Homework Equations



tan(theta)=sin(theta)/cos(theta)
sin^2(theta)+cos^2(theta)=1

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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TW Cantor said:

Homework Statement


the problem is:
tan(theta) = cos(theta)
find theta: -pi < theta < pi

Homework Equations



tan(theta)=sin(theta)/cos(theta)
sin^2(theta)+cos^2(theta)=1

The Attempt at a Solution

You will need to use both identities you show in the Relevant equations.
 
i have tried using both equations but it just ends up getting more complicated. could you maybe tell me which one to use first? :-)
 
Show me what you've done and we can go from there.
 
i have basically tried rearranging the equation to try and eliminate one of the functions from it.
so I've tried going from:
tan(θ) = cos(θ)
to:
sin(θ)/cos(θ) = cos(θ)

sin(θ) = cos2(θ)

sin2(θ) = cos2(θ)*sin(θ)

is this the right thing to do or am i going wrong?
 
TW Cantor said:
i have basically tried rearranging the equation to try and eliminate one of the functions from it.
so I've tried going from:
tan(θ) = cos(θ)
to:
sin(θ)/cos(θ) = cos(θ)

sin(θ) = cos2(θ)
Here (above) is where you use the other identity: sin2(θ) + cos2(θ) = 1. You want an equation in terms of sin(θ).
TW Cantor said:
sin2(θ) = cos2(θ)*sin(θ)

is this the right thing to do or am i going wrong?
 
so you get:
sin2(θ) + sin(θ) -1 = 0
and then just solve as a quadratic?
 
so I've got one result: 0.666 radians
but i drew out the cosine graph and the tan graph and they meet at two separate points. how do i calculate the second value?
 
TW Cantor said:
so you get:
sin2(θ) + sin(θ) -1 = 0
and then just solve as a quadratic?
Yes.

TW Cantor said:
so I've got one result: 0.666 radians
but i drew out the cosine graph and the tan graph and they meet at two separate points. how do i calculate the second value?

When you solved the equation above you should have gotten two values for sin(θ).
 
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i did get two values for sin(θ). one was 0.6180339 which gave a value for θ of 0.66624
the other value of sin(θ) was -1.6180339 so when i try sin-1 it gets a math error
 
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There should be another value in the interval [0, pi] for which sin(θ) = .6180339. Hint: the graph of y = sin(x) is symmetrical about the line x = pi/2.
 
  • #12
ahhhh yes. didnt think of putting it on a sine graph, i was still using the tan and cosine graphs. i got θ = 0.666, 2.475 :-) thanks a lot for your help :-)
 
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TW Cantor said:

Homework Statement


the problem is:
tan(theta) = cos(theta)
find theta: -pi < theta < pi

Homework Equations



tan(theta)=sin(theta)/cos(theta)
sin^2(theta)+cos^2(theta)=1

The Attempt at a Solution

Something missing here, isn't there? Yes, use tan(theta)= sin(theta)/cos(theta) to write the equation in terms of sine and cosine and then use sin^2(theta)+ cos^2(theta)= 1 to reduce to only cosine (or only sine).
 

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