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The discussion revolves around two trigonometric problems from a high school mathematics context. The first problem involves proving that if sin(θ) - cos(θ) = 1, then sin(θ) + cos(θ) = ±1. The second problem asks to prove that if tan(θ) + sec(θ) = 10, then sin²(θ) + cos²(θ) = 1.

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  • Participants discuss squaring both sides of the equations and using trigonometric identities as an approach. Some express confusion about how to simplify the expressions, particularly for the second problem. There are questions about the nature of the identity in the second problem and whether it needs to be derived from the first expression.

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Some participants have provided partial solutions and insights, particularly for the first problem, while others are still exploring the second problem. There is acknowledgment that the second problem's identity is always true, which has led to some clarification in the discussion.

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One participant notes that the question from the textbook has been removed in newer editions, which may contribute to confusion regarding the problems being discussed.

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I was having some free time and decided to do some mathematics from my high school mathematics book.These two problems remained, and I am completely clueless to the solution approach.

Homework Statement



A. If sin(θ)-cos(θ)=1, prove that sin(θ)+cos(θ)=±1
B. If tan(θ)+sec(θ)=10, prove that sin^{2}(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)=1

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The approach to both problems were similar, I squared both sides of the given equations, and used trig identities at an attempt of simplifying.

That got me nowhere. :frown:

Pointers would be helpful. :smile:
 
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labin.ojha said:
A. If sin(θ)-cos(θ)=1, prove that sin(θ)+cos(θ)=±1
B. If tan(θ)+sec(θ)=10, prove that sin^{2}(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)=1
I squared both sides of the given equations, and used trig identities at an attempt of simplifying.
That certainly works for A. If you still can't see it, please post your working.
For B, pay close attention to what is to be proved.
 
haruspex said:
That certainly works for A. If you still can't see it, please post your working.
For B, pay close attention to what is to be proved.

Found a way for A:

sin(θ)-cos(θ)=1
[Squaring]
sin^{2}(θ)-2sin(θ)cos(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)=1=sin^{2}(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)
sin^{2}(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)=sin^{2}(θ)+2sin(θ)cos(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)
1=(sin(θ)+cos(θ))^{2}
[Taking square roots]
sin(θ)+cos(θ)=\pm1

For B, the 'to prove' equation is an identity but getting it from the given expression is being a problem
because as I square the both sides , it gets messier and hopeless.
 
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labin.ojha said:
Found a way for A:

sin(θ)-cos(θ)=1
[Squaring]
sin^{2}(θ)-2sin(θ)cos(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)=1=sin^{2}(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)
sin^{2}(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)=sin^{2}(θ)+2sin(θ)cos(θ)+cos^{2}(θ)
1=(sin(θ)+cos(θ))^{2}
[Taking square roots]
sin(θ)+cos(θ)=\pm1

For B, the 'to prove' equation is an identity but getting it from the given expression is being a problem
because as I square the both sides , it gets messier and hopeless.

If the equation to be proved is an identity, you don't have to get it from the other expression. It's just plain always true.
 
Dick said:
If the equation to be proved is an identity, you don't have to get it from the other expression. It's just plain always true.

Yes, it is. But I'll look for the solution and post it here as soon as i get it . :smile:

EDIT:
the question seems to have been removed from the new edition of the book, mine was an old one.
 
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labin.ojha said:
Yes, it is. But I'll look for the solution and post it here as soon as i get it . :smile:

There's really nothing to look for or get. This is exactly like proving "If x=2 then x=x." x=x is true regardless of whether x=2 is true. So "If x=2 then x=x." is a true statement.
 
labin.ojha said:
EDIT:
the question seems to have been removed from the new edition of the book, mine was an old one.

Removing it is a good idea. In the context of proving trig stuff, it's only going to cause confusion.
 
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