Trig Substitution for ∫ x/(x^2 + x+ 1)dx: Simplifying Complex Integrals

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The discussion revolves around the integral ∫ x/(x^2 + x + 1)dx, focusing on techniques for simplifying complex integrals, particularly through trigonometric substitution and completing the square.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore completing the square for the denominator and consider trigonometric substitutions. There is uncertainty about the manipulation of the square root in the numerator and the application of trigonometric identities.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding completing the square and making substitutions. Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning their approaches, and correcting each other's understanding of trigonometric identities.

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There is a noted concern about the complexity introduced by the square root in the numerator, and participants are navigating through potential errors in their trigonometric reasoning.

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∫ x/(x^2 + x+ 1)dx

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∫ x/(x^2 + x+ 1)dx

not really sure where to start on this one, i feel like i should factor the denominator in such a way that i have an expression whose derivative is some constant times x. help please
 
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Try completing the square for x^2 + x+ 1 and then make an appropriate substitution.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Try completing the square for x^2 + x+ 1 and then make an appropriate substitution.

∫ x/√(x^2 + x + 1 -3/4 + 3/4)

√((x + 1/2)^2 + 3/4)

u = (x+1/2)
u = dx

√((u)^2 + 3/4)

u = (√3/2)tanϑ du = √3/2sec^2ϑdϑ

√(u^2 + 3/4) = √3/2secϑ- pi/2 < ϑ < pi/2

then substituting things back in

((√3/2)tanϑ - 1/2)/ √3/2secϑ)* √3/2sec^2ϑdϑ

im weary of that square root in the numerator
 
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hi vande060! :smile:
vande060 said:
√((u)^2 + 3/4)

u = (√3/2)secϑ

oooh :cry: … learn all your trigonometric identities …

sec2 = tan2 + 1, not t'other way round :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi vande060! :smile:oooh :cry: … learn all your trigonometric identities …

sec2 = tan2 + 1, not t'other way round :redface:

fixed, if this is correct so far, i can finish it out myself
 

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