Trigonometric Integral Confusion

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of trigonometric integrals, specifically focusing on the integral involving the expression \(\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1+x^2}}\). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the simplification of \(\sec(\text{arctan}(x))\) and the nature of the resulting expression.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between trigonometric and hyperbolic functions, with some suggesting the use of right triangles to derive secant values. Questions arise about the correctness of derived expressions and the expected forms of answers.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on verifying results through differentiation and exploring alternative methods, including hyperbolic functions. There is an acknowledgment of different approaches to the integral, but no explicit consensus on a single method.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention a lack of familiarity with hyperbolic functions and their derivatives, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect the discussion.

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Homework Statement



So, for absolutely no good reason I decided to practice trigonometric substitution. I started with [itex]\int \left(1-x^2\right)^{-1/2} dx[/itex], and that was easy, everything canceled out nicely. Then I tried [itex]\int \left(1+x^2\right)^{-1/2} dx[/itex], and although the integral was fine, everything did not cancel out nicely afterward. So I need help on one minor issue.

Homework Equations



[tex]sec(u) = \frac{sec^2(u) + sec(u) tan(u)}{sec(u) + tan(u)}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1+x^2}}[/tex]

[tex]\int \frac{sec^2(u) du}{\sqrt{1+tan^2(u)}}[/tex]

[tex]\int sec(u) du[/tex]

[tex]\int \frac{sec^2(u) + sec(u) tan(u)}{sec(u) + tan(u)} du[/tex]

[tex]\int \frac{dv}{v}[/tex]

[tex]ln(v)[/tex]

[tex]ln(tan(u) + sec(u))[/tex]

[tex]ln(x + sec(tan^{-1}(x)))[/tex]



Now, is there any way to simplify sec(arctan(x))?
 
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Let θ = arctan(x), then tan(θ) = x = x/1. Draw a right triangle, label the sides, and then find sec(θ).
 
Draw a right triangle where the leg opposite θ is length x and the adjacent leg is length 1 so that tan θ=x/1.
 
vela said:
Draw a right triangle where the leg opposite θ is length x and the adjacent leg is length 1 so that tan θ=x/1.

Hmm... I did that, but I don't think my answer is right... the O=x, A=1, H=sqrt(1+x^2) idea gives me sec(arctan(x))=sqrt(1+x^2), and that just doesn't sound right... but it probably is.

So...

[tex]ln\left(x+\sqrt{1+x^2}\right) +C[/tex]

Is the answer? For some reason I expected a trig function to pop up like it did with 1/sqrt(1-x^2)...
 
That's the right answer, you can always check on Wolfram|Alpha too.
 
Or you could differentiate your answer and see if you get the integrand back.

If you think in terms of the hyperbolic trig functions, your answer is arcsinh(x), so a trig function does actually pop up.
 
Oh I see. Thanks for the info on the arsinh(x) function... I just looked it up on Wikipedia, and it helped me understand that there was a trig function hidden in that logarithmic function.
 
There are two ways to solve this integral. There is the use of [tex]x=\tan\theta[/tex] and by the use of the identity [tex]1+\tan^{2}theta =\sec^{2}\theta[/tex] and the use of [tex]x=\sinh u[/tex] and use [tex]\cosh^{2}u=1+\sinh^{2}u[/tex]. I personally think it is easier with the hyperbolic function.
 
Yes, but I had never heard of the hyperbolic functions before today, so I don't quite know the derivative of sinh and cosh. Is it the same as the derivative of sin and cos? Namely...

[tex]\frac{d sinh(x)}{dx} = cosh(x)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d cosh(x)}{dx} = - sinh(x)[/tex]

Are those correct?
 
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No. The definitions are as follows:
[tex] \sinh x=\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}\quad\cosh x=\frac{e^{x}+e^{-x}}{2}[/tex]
From these definitions, you can calculate the derivatives and also prove the basic identity:
[tex] \cosh^{2}x-\sinh^{2}x=1[/tex]
From these three definitions, you can pretty much prove everything you need.

Mat
 
  • #11
Oh, I see. So the derivative is a two-point cycle, not a four-point cycle. Thank you.
 
  • #12
There's not much to learn about hyperbolic functions apart from their definitions, their graphs and their derivatives. I am not sure of their geometric interpretation, there must be one, hyperbolic geometry perhaps?

mat
 
  • #13
I just looked it up, they are supposed to give measures of a hyperbola, I believe. Somehow.
 

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