Trigonometric integrals; choosing which one to break up?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for integrating products of trigonometric functions, specifically how to choose which function to "break up" for substitution when faced with integrals like the integral of (cos4 * sin6). Participants explore various approaches and principles related to this topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if there is a general rule for determining which trigonometric function to break up for substitution in integrals involving products of different trigonometric functions.
  • Another participant suggests a principle: if one of the trigonometric functions has an odd exponent, substitute for the other function. If both functions have odd exponents, either can be chosen for substitution.
  • A further elaboration includes a method for integrals where both functions have even exponents, recommending the use of identities to express them in terms of cos(2x) before substituting.
  • One participant humorously suggests trying one approach to see if it works, indicating a trial-and-error method may be applicable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of a general rule for choosing which function to break up, with some proposing specific strategies while others remain uncertain about a definitive approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, with discussions reflecting various strategies that depend on the specific forms of the trigonometric functions involved. There is no consensus on a single method or rule applicable to all cases.

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trigonometric integrals; choosing which one to "break up?"

When you have two different trigonometric functions multiplied together within the integral, for example integral of (cos^4*sin^6) how do you tell which one to "break them up" to substitute an identity in?

Thank you!
 
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JessicaJ283782 said:
When you have two different trigonometric functions multiplied together within the integral, for example integral of (cos^4*sin^6) how do you tell which one to "break them up" to substitute an identity in?

Thank you!

I doubt if there is a general rule. In the above cos^4 = (1-sin^2)^2.
 
mathman said:
I doubt if there is a general rule. In the above cos^4 = (1-sin^2)^2.

Do you have any hints on how to pick which one by any chance? Or how you can look at them and tell which one to "break up"?
 
For integrals involving products of cosines and sines, the general principle is as follows:

1. If one of the trig functions has an odd exponent, substitute for the other function. If they are both odd, substitute for either one -- it's your choice. (Example: if the problem is to integrate ##\cos^3 x \sin^4 x##, cosine has an odd exponent, so put ##u = \sin x, du = \cos x\,dx##.) You will have to use the identity ##\cos^2 + \sin^2 = 1## to carry out the substitution. [Note: This even works if one of the functions is not there at all! If you have to integrate ##\sin^3 x##, that is equal to ##\sin^3 x \cos^0 x##. Sine has an odd exponent, so substitute for ##\cos x##. It will work out!]

2. If both of the trig functions have even exponents, sigh, then use the identities ##\cos^2 x = {1 + \cos 2x \over 2}## and ##\sin^2 x = {1 - \cos 2x \over 2}## until everything is in terms of ##\cos 2x##. Then substitute for 2x. Now you have a new problem where the exponents are lower. You may repeat step 1 or 2 as appropriate until the problem is solved.
 
You try one and see if it works!
 

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